I think I am on about my 5th seat, most rode until they fell apart. The stock '85 was a bench style, not great, we upgraded to the newer BMW saddle style for the camping trip across the country. When that fell apart went back to the stock, then a corbin canyon or something. Bought an used Russel day long that we liked, problem was it was for a 1990 so mounting did not work, it was held on with some string for several years. Bought a beat up bmw seat for the seat pan and sent it to Russel along with measurements and photos. That was a couple of years ago, we have been very happy with it. Seemed a little strange paying almost as much for a seat as what the bike was worth. We should have bought one years ago. Also recently added aftermarket heated grips, the little pleasures in life.