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Offline DangerD1967

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Feeling like an electrical avalanche is headed my way....
« on: October 15, 2013, 04:04:48 PM »
12 volt electricity

I love my bike,
I love my bike,
I love my bike...
I hate my inabilities!

Some of you might recognize my newbie-isms and might laugh, but I just want to get my bike as close to headache free as possible before the winter when my brain will turn to inventive ways to stay warm while riding. Doing maintenance outdoors in January isn't fun!

Same bike 94 K75s

Last week trying to uncover issue with wiring for the gear indicator that prevented Neutral light and GI to light I was tracing wires and tried to find a means to access the rear of the gearbox by removing the right side kick plate (newbie note~this is the item right behind the rear brake panel~right?) figured out that this was not helpful. Found solution to GI/neutral issue, but now ABS warning light will not clear after start up. It will go from solid to blinking no matter which brake I engage first and stay blinking indefinitely. I found by accident that the center button on the handlebar area will reset the ABS to solid on...till next restart. I still have brakes that seem very responsive. I tried retracing my steps, found no loose connection at the brake foot pedal, traced it upwards and found no corrosion or issue at 2 pin connection. I am fearful that I might have to go deep into the electrical box; I have been there a couple of times, but only by bracing up the tank with a block of wood while dealing with the starter relay. My skill set makes me nervous about removing the tank without someone looking over my shoulder.

So questions:

Am I risking my life by riding with the ABS blinking?
What else should I troubleshoot in regards to the blinking?
Does anyone want to make some money letting me use their garage and looking over my shoulder? (Mid Tennessee area)
What are the three toggle switches for on the center of the handlebar area?
Totally off the original subject: Is there a repair kit for side bags hinges-seems like two pieces that just slip over the hard plastic rails on the bottom of the bags.

PS,

I really do love my bike and would not trade her for the world

Offline Muddy90

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Re: Feeling like an electrical avalanche is headed my way....
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2013, 05:17:14 PM »
Hi

I'm fairly new to K bikes myself, but I think I may be able to help. You may have triggered an ABS fault. It is possible to reset the fault by earthing one of the pins. There is an instruction page floating around this site. I'm sure somebody will be along with more details. The brakes still work ok whilst the light is flashing, just the ABS wont function so be aware.

The switches are  I believe Heated Grips, ABS light off, Hazard flashers.

Yes there is a repair kit available for the tragkorbs, I've just fitted one, it's a BMW part

Unfortunately I cant offer use of my Garage as I'm the other side of the Pond to you

Hope this helps

Mike
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Offline Scott_

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Re: Feeling like an electrical avalanche is headed my way....
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 06:09:01 PM »
One question will be how new/old is the battery. ABS systems are very temperamental to low voltage levels when starting the bike.

For your case hinges it's bmw part #:46 54 2 300 039   cost about $5.00

As far as your abs issues. 1st try the procedure in the 1st link to start fresh

http://www.ibmwr.org/ktech/abs-reset2.shtml  by richard paton
http://www.ibmwr.org/ktech/abs-reset.shtml  by jim johnson

If you experience an indicated fault again, then you need to try and read out the fault as see what's happening with this link.

http://www.ibmwr.org/ktech/abs-diagnostics.shtml  by brian curry

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Re: Feeling like an electrical avalanche is headed my way....
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2013, 08:11:53 PM »
In regard to the question about risking your life:  No, not really.  The brakes work like normal non-ABS brakes when the ABS system is out.
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Re: Feeling like an electrical avalanche is headed my way....
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2013, 01:48:46 PM »
12 volt electricity

I love my bike,
I love my bike,
I love my bike...
I hate my inabilities!

Some of you might recognize my newbie-isms and might laugh, but I just want to get my bike as close to headache free as possible before the winter when my brain will turn to inventive ways to stay warm while riding. Doing maintenance outdoors in January isn't fun!

Same bike 94 K75s

Last week trying to uncover issue with wiring for the gear indicator that prevented Neutral light and GI to light I was tracing wires and tried to find a means to access the rear of the gearbox by removing the right side kick plate (newbie note~this is the item right behind the rear brake panel~right?) figured out that this was not helpful. Found solution to GI/neutral issue, but now ABS warning light will not clear after start up. It will go from solid to blinking no matter which brake I engage first and stay blinking indefinitely. I found by accident that the center button on the handlebar area will reset the ABS to solid on...till next restart. I still have brakes that seem very responsive. I tried retracing my steps, found no loose connection at the brake foot pedal, traced it upwards and found no corrosion or issue at 2 pin connection. I am fearful that I might have to go deep into the electrical box; I have been there a couple of times, but only by bracing up the tank with a block of wood while dealing with the starter relay. My skill set makes me nervous about removing the tank without someone looking over my shoulder.

So questions:

Am I risking my life by riding with the ABS blinking?
What else should I troubleshoot in regards to the blinking?
Does anyone want to make some money letting me use their garage and looking over my shoulder? (Mid Tennessee area)
What are the three toggle switches for on the center of the handlebar area?
Totally off the original subject: Is there a repair kit for side bags hinges-seems like two pieces that just slip over the hard plastic rails on the bottom of the bags.

PS,

I really do love my bike and would not trade her for the world

Have you tried to rest the ABS?

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Resetting the ABS: The first thing to try is resetting the ABS to clear the fault.  Open your seat and look for a blue plastic cap on a three wire connector which is a diagnostic plug for hooking up to a computer at the BMW dealer.  If you don't see the blue plastic cap then it may be lost. In that case look for a black plastic connector under the seat that has three wires and is not connected to anything.

Diagnostic plug cap:



Once you've located the diagnostic plug cap, remove the cap and stick the stripped end of a piece of wire into the center terminal of the diagnostic plug. Ground the other end somewhere on the bike.  For 93 and earlier K bikes a good place to ground the other end of the wire is where the battery ground is bolted to the left side of the transmission near the shift lever.

Once your wire is grounded, hold down the ABS switch and turn the key all of the way clockwise to turn the bike on while keeping the ABS switch depressed.  (You don't need to start the bike, just turn it on.) Count to thirty slowly.  Then turn off the bike.  Hopefully the ABS fault is now cleared.

Remove the grounded wire from the diagnostic plug, replace the diagnostic plug's protective cap and then go for a short ride.  If the ABS brain has been reset successfully then the ABS warning lights should go out after the bike has moved several feet.

Note that sometimes it can take several reset attempts for the reset to take so try it a few times if the first reset doesn't resolve your problem.  (Hence the Voodoo nature of it.)

The button you push just stops the lights from flashing.

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Re: Feeling like an electrical avalanche is headed my way....
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2013, 12:11:01 PM »
 :yes :yes

AWESOME! After a couple of tries I was able to reset the ABS fault using the method describe in the link. I have ordered the hinges for my side bag so that issue will soon be fixed. I now would love some advice on how to better secure the wire to the rear of my transmission that is linked to the gear indicator on the instrument panel. At the moment I have the free play portion stabilized with a zip tie, but after any length of bumpies I find myself having to find the sweet spot all over again. Based on the weather and my insane desire to ride coupled with a few new tricks in clothing, I have at least 30 more days of riding. I look forward to a short down time of "fun" projects this winter rather than knowing I have spring headaches unattended. Thanks to all for all the help!

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Re: Feeling like an electrical avalanche is headed my way....
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2013, 02:17:55 PM »
Glad it worked out for you. Sometimes it takes multiple times. ...

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