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Offline TaosBrick

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So, if you can't get Chevron...
« on: May 21, 2012, 03:37:52 PM »
...what are one's next best choices for fuel? Expecting Dr. D to chime in here.
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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2012, 03:55:54 PM »
Texaco is now owned by Chevron and they add Techron as well.
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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2012, 03:58:07 PM »
Or just pack a bottle of Techron additive and add your own.

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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2012, 04:46:40 PM »
you can be on the lookout for the 2 for 1 deal on 20oz techron at your local autoparts store...

what i do is add 1/2 bottle to full tank... then add the rest to the next tank... do that for 4 consecutive tanks...

generally do that twice a year...

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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2012, 08:33:18 PM »
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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2012, 08:47:01 PM »
I usually like shell. Pumps are faster, for whatever reason. Be careful when filling.

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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2012, 08:54:32 PM »
If I can't get Chevron or T-rex-ico, I usually opt for Shell.  I'll also add the occasional dose of Berrymans or Seafoam at very random intervals.

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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2012, 11:20:56 PM »
Thanks y'all, I was thinking Shell might be next-best. I've been putting that Lucas gas treatment in on occasion as well, anybody got any thots on that stuf?
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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2012, 11:30:39 PM »
...what are one's next best choices for fuel?
Around here I use Speedway, BP. UDF, Marathon, Clark, Swifty, Kroger, Sunoco, Sam's Club, Pilot, Meijer, Valero, Gas America, there's probably others out there. Never tried Shell, just seems like a funny name for a gas company :neener:
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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 09:50:56 AM »
...what are one's next best choices for fuel? Expecting Dr. D to chime in here.

Chevron,Texaco petrol is NOT available here in the Mid Atlantic period.

It may be a mind set but none of my bikes like too digest Sunoco brand period. Hell, the mid grade Sunoco tends to burn better than the 93 rated octane.   :dunno2:

Shell is what I try to purchase if possible, followed by Exxon or Gulf.

Can any of you chemistry bricKheads please explain how adding nitrogen cleans the injectors ?

Overall condition of gasoline storage is another tidbit. Older stations tend to have water intrusion and lack state of the art filtering.

dunno, I've done the Chevron FI concentrate drill a few times on my whip. Cutter claims it's the ONLY snake oil that actually works.

Startron brand alcohol enzyme magiK seems to help slightly with the alcohol blobs that collect on the bottom of the tank.

http://mystarbrite.com/startron/

My mantra: fill up with premium, flog the bitch hard till the fuel light turns on, refill.  Large percentage of fuel related problems are from letting a bricK sit too long un-ridden.

Interesting info about the Shell logo in the pic below.

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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 10:52:03 AM »
flog the bitch hard till the fuel light turns on

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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 10:33:20 PM »
DRxBMW,
Don't know about cleaning injectors, but nitrogen in the tires sure makes them faster.  :bmwsmile

If you have a refinery nearby or big gasoline distributor, you will probably see all major and minor brands pulling gas from the same tanks. It's supposedly the magic additives make the difference.

Gasoline, like motor oil, gens lots of ambiguous discussion.







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So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2012, 03:22:51 AM »
Slightly off-topic but I'll throw in my $0.02 here.
I've just spent a total of 8 hours at my local wrench trying to diagnose a "random mis-fire" in my 2005 5cyl Chevy Colorado 4x4.
We scanned for codes, got only one, did a "smoke test" for vacuum leaks, and finally a leak down test on the cylinder with the lowest reading (180 vs 190) to find I have very positive crankcase ventilation  :eek2:
The Big Giant Brains (myself included) decided that my #1 cylinder was egg-shaped or all the piston rings had lined up - either scenario was not very palatable and the cure was NOT going to be cheap.
As luck would have it, a former co-worker drove in for a visit with the wrench (we all worked at a Ford dealer together a few years back). He had the same vehicle as I, with the same motor, and experienced a catastrophic motor failure at 7K miles that was being handled by Chevrolet warranty.
He was visiting with the technician that was swapping out his motor and while there took a peek at the internals of his, now dead, unit. What he saw was that his piston rings had become stuck inside the grooves of the #1 piston (unrelated to the motor failure) due to some "unknown gummy ch1t" in the grooves.
The Chevrolet tech related that he sees this condition a lot when folks continually run "cheap gas" from 2nd tier retailers in newer vehicles. The suppliers to these 2nd tier retailers usually put some sort of additive in the fuel before it leaves the distributor for the specific purpose of making the fuel palatable to much older vehicles.
My former co-worker was just as guilty as I was of buying the cheapest gas possible for our trucks. I have been buying from the local Thrifty Gas (an ARCO/BP subordinate) station since I landed back in SoCA last October.
At $4.25/per it was keeping me from going broke as I commuted 80 miles RT to my temp job. It was also, apparently, gluing the rings to the insides of the grooves in my pistons - with the #1 hole being the worst offender of the 5.
Prevailing wisdom now told us that I recently bought a tank of ch1tty fuel and that $200+/- of Chevron Mid-Grade with Techron and a couple bottles of Lucas Fuel System Conditioner "should" eventually clear the misfires and codes from my 96,000 mile motor.
Time will tell.......... :dunno2:

Moral of the story: run anything that you want/like in your moto - just know that if you buy from cheaper "off-brand" stations you will eventually pay the price (pardon the pun).
Run a tank, or two, of 1st tier premium every now and then and/or head to Pep Boys and pick up a bottle of Techron additive and do what J O does as preventive maintenance.

YMMV

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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2012, 11:19:05 PM »
Here in Oklahoma Conoco rules, cause they are one of the few that still sell 100% Ethanol free fuel.  I have found the brick loves this fuel as well as the weed wacker and chainsaw, and oh I might as well include the lawnmower.

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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2012, 12:17:29 AM »
I have been considering going to our small airport aqui en Taos, with a five gallon can to gets me some o that 100octane AvGas. My Hardly Ablsome neighbor swears by the stuf, has NO ethanol and actual lead to keep yer top end happy. He usually mixes in a gallon or so every other tankful.
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2012, 01:00:06 AM »
I have been considering going to our small airport aqui en Taos, with a five gallon can to gets me some o that 100octane AvGas. My Hardly Ablsome neighbor swears by the stuf, has NO ethanol and actual lead to keep yer top end happy.....

There's just that annoying little detail called a "catalytic converter" that your neighbor is overlooking.....unless, of course, he has a Stage 1.75 Kit in that tractor... :hmm:

Leaded fuel + Catalytic Converter = major malfuntion, voided warranties, and a BIG EPA no-no  :nono

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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2012, 09:48:59 AM »
K75s don't have a cat. Nor do they have a warranty anymore.
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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2012, 10:09:20 AM »
And since it doesn't have those things, you probably don't care about the EPA, either.

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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2012, 10:19:21 AM »
And since it doesn't have those things, you probably don't care about the EPA, either.

Hey - If evry frikken piston engined aereoplane is spewin' tankfuls of lead from on high, I ain't gonna feel too bad about burning a gallon or two every now and then.
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Re: So, if you can't get Chevron...
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2012, 11:01:22 AM »
And since it doesn't have those things, you probably don't care about the EPA, either.

The EPA is a terrorist organization.

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Chevron Supreme with Techron...
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2012, 12:03:13 PM »
K75s don't have a cat. Nor do they have a warranty anymore.

Maybe so….but I bet some newer bricks, other motos, and TB’s Hardley Ferguson riding neighbor does…..


And since it doesn't have those things, you probably don't care about the EPA, either.

Probably one of the biggest waste of taxpayer money ever to come along in my automotive carreer  :loopy:


And since it doesn't have those things, you probably don't care about the EPA, either.

Hey - If every frikken piston-engined aereoplane is spewin' tankfuls of lead from on high, I ain't gonna feel too bad about burning a gallon or two every now and then.

Good point…..and I bet them aereoplanes are pretty fuel efficient – just like our motos  :2thumbup:


And since it doesn't have those things, you probably don't care about the EPA, either.

The EPA is a DOMESTIC terrorist organization.  :yow

(Sorry, I have really crappy self-control and I just couldn't help it.)

Fixed it fer ya…..and I don’t like ‘em much either…..

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Re: Chevron Supreme with Techron...
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2012, 01:22:33 PM »

Maybe so….but I bet some newer bricks, other motos, and TB’s Hardley Ferguson riding neighbor does…..

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Hah - that's funny, but you guys don't know my neighbor Jeff. He's been a REAL biker since the 60's, (not yer investment banker make-me-wanna-puke weekend warrior HOG member poseurs). Grease and oil come out of his pores, and the idea that he's have a cat on one of his vintage tractors is pretty hilarious. But like I said, you don't know the guy. Our neighborhood is full of colourful characters like him :giggles.
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Chevron Supreme with Techron...
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2012, 01:31:42 PM »
....you guys don't know my neighbor Jeff. He's been a REAL biker since the 60's, (not yer investment banker make-me-wanna-puke weekend warrior HOG member poseurs). Grease and oil come out of his pores, and the idea that he's have a cat on one of his vintage tractors is pretty hilarious. But like I said, you don't know the guy. Our neighborhood is full of colourful characters like him :giggles.

I kinda figgered that might be the case after I posted.....but it was worth a shot (for informational purposes only  :laugh)

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Re: Chevron Supreme with Techron...
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2012, 08:26:36 PM »

Maybe so….but I bet some newer bricks, other motos, and TB’s Hardley Ferguson riding neighbor does…..

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Hah - that's funny, but you guys don't know my neighbor Jeff. He's been a REAL biker since the 60's, (not yer investment banker make-me-wanna-puke weekend warrior HOG member poseurs). Grease and oil come out of his pores, and the idea that he's have a cat on one of his vintage tractors is pretty hilarious. But like I said, you don't know the guy. Our neighborhood is full of colourful characters like him :giggles.

If you shot a 30 06 at a 45 degree angle, could you hit his house. :giggles

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Re: Chevron Supreme with Techron...
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2012, 09:22:48 PM »

And since it doesn't have those things, you probably don't care about the EPA, either.

The EPA is a DOMESTIC terrorist organization.  :yow

(Sorry, I have really crappy self-control and I just couldn't help it.)

Fixed it fer ya…..and I don’t like ‘em much either…..

Yes, more specifically it is a domestic (home grown?) terror organization. 
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