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Offline jjconeill

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Fuel tank
« on: August 27, 2017, 05:59:39 PM »
after replacing the fuel tank electric connector with a trailer hitch connector, recommended on this site, Thank You. my gas pill shaped light comes on at 130 miles, however that is only 3 gallons of what I believe is a 5.5 gal tank. the pill shaped light seems to be towards the right side of the pill shape, doubt if there is another bulb to the left side when less gas is available. So Tuesday I will put a gallon can of gas in my side bag and see how long it takes to run dry. Before the light worked I would go 180 miles than fill up, cant' remember quantity that was. any suggestion's on how to get the light to delay with say one gallon for reserve? the sending unit was replace by a dealer who thought it was faulty as was the fuel pump, they did not diagnose the connector. Thanks.
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Offline Martin

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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2017, 08:56:33 PM »
The sender unit is adjustable by moving a toothed wheel. Be gentle.
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Offline White Dog

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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2017, 08:59:48 AM »
To delay the idiot light illuminating, turn the gear wheel CCW.  Be gentle, as Martin said.  Those teeth can easily be broken off.  Don't ask me how I know.
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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2017, 09:16:36 AM »
Yes, I can see that being a possibility.  The wheel is riveted using a nylon rivet.  It is understandably tight because it has to be set and remain at that setting in a very harsh environment, so there is lots of friction.  That's why I recommend levering against one of the metal tabs you will see poking up near the wheel.  Use a thin 1/8" straight blade screwdriver and work carefully.
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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2017, 09:32:07 AM »

Use a thin 1/8" straight blade screwdriver and work carefully.

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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2017, 09:41:29 AM »
Why not simply bend the float rod downward (if signalling too soon) or upward (otherwise)?
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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2017, 10:12:35 AM »
Why not simply bend the float rod downward (if signalling too soon) or upward (otherwise)?
Some people want to operate a toothed wheel, John, because it's there. Doing so helps bring order to a chaotic universe.
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Offline rbm

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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2017, 10:59:23 AM »
Why not simply bend the float rod downward (if signalling too soon) or upward (otherwise)?
Because bending the arm changes the relative position of the wiper on the fuel level resistor to which the arm is connected, affecting the reading on the fuel gauge (if the bike is equipped with one).  Altering the contact point for the low fuel indicator using the BMW-provided adjustment wheel does not upset the fuel level sender.  Why "McGiver" it if you can do it properly?


The adjustment process is easy:
1. Take out the sender and set it up on the bench so that the float ball just touches the table top in its resting position.  Fix the sender's base.
2. Use an ohmmeter to measure resistance between White and Brown wires
3. Lift the float arm until the ohmmeter goes from 0 ohms to open circuit.  Measure the height of the float ball above the bench top.
4. Adjust the toothed wheel to add or subtract from the reserve volume as you desire.
5. Perform Step #3 again, noting the new height the float assumes when conductivity ceases -- higher above the bench for more reserve volume or lower to the bench for less reserve volume.
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Offline John Lang

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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2017, 04:10:55 PM »
Very clearly explained. Thank you, Robert.
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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2017, 04:48:15 PM »
My toilet tank and I go way back. It has no cogwheel.
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Offline Martin

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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2017, 05:01:06 PM »
John go out and buy a BMW toilet tank they are equipped with a toothed wheel.  :2thumbup:
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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2017, 09:21:35 PM »
Why not simply bend the float rod downward (if signalling too soon) or upward (otherwise)?
You go ahead and bend your float rod and report back what happens.
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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2017, 06:56:17 AM »
Mine is working just fine. Hanes warns against bending the arm when removing the unit from the tank, so it is bendable. But, as RBM noted, why McGiver it when an adjuster is provided?
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Offline White Dog

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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2017, 09:05:01 AM »
Mine is working just fine. Hanes warns against bending the arm when removing the unit from the tank, so it is bendable. But, as RBM noted, why McGiver it when an adjuster is provided?


So why did you ask the question "Why not simply bend the float rod downward (if signalling too soon) or upward (otherwise)?[size=78%]" [/size][/size]if you already knew the answer?  Are you in Troll-Mode?[size=78%]
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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2017, 09:15:19 AM »
No, it was an honest enquiry. I asked about bending the arm when someone mentioned the adjuster wheel is delicate and could be damaged. I thought it might also be necessary to remove it from the tank to get at it, requiring the sealing gasket to be replaced. The McGiver treatment seemed expedient.
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Re: Fuel tank
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2017, 09:23:02 AM »
Ok.  You are right about the delicacy.  I stripped the teeth off my original sending unit but with the new replacement I bought from a seller on this board, I was able to advance the gear wheel one cog to see if that helps.  So much for trying to adjust the unit while it is mounted in the tank.  Can't see, hand in awkward position, not to mention submerged in gasoline.  It is a crap shoot to R/R the unit each time an adjustment is made, but no one seems to say how much of an adjustment is needed, other than by trial and error.


I could put the old unit back in and put black tape on the dash panel light but it would look tacky.
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