I need a solution: k75s abs removal brake hose workaround?

[Panchoplanet]

This is really putting my senses, patience and automotive skills to the test.


Like I mentioned in my project thread I purchased bike in a dismantled state of WTF. Abs system had been removed and scrapped, so have no idea of what I'm working with.
Cannot find a front brake hose with a 10mm banjo fitting and a female or male fitting at other end, no shops or bike resources around or near me and Internet searching is like taking crazy pills.


So if anyone has gone the abs removal route and can share your knowledge of this pickle I will be super appreciative.


Felt I had to separate this from my original post due to the eurgency and challenge level.


(Will post pics as soon as I get to shop)


TIA,


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[Dennis de Vries]

Why not take measurement of the needed length (of the brakeline i meant you pervs!) and have banjofittings top and bottom? I'm pretty sure a M10x1 banjobolt would fit the calliper, too. That way you would do away with the last bit of hardline between rubberline and calliper but that shouldn't be a problem, should it?

You might want to look into the "brakes" section on this page here:

http://www.kbikeparts.com/classickbikes.com/ckb.tech/ckb.tech.toc.htm

I tried to create a direct link to the brakes page for you but somehow that didn't work on my phone...
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[Panchoplanet]

Not sure if caliper fitting port will accept a banjo bolt or if there will be enough clearance for crossover line and banjo fitting to fit.
Originally the brake hose was directed at r/s caliper with crossover line to l/s caliper.


Sample image below.


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[Martin]

When you say no shops or resources does that include car brake shops or hydraulic specialist including mobile ones.
Regards Martin.

[thecableguy]

Quick google search turns up http://www.mooradianhydraulics.com/services.html Website specifically notes they do custom work.


Not too far...  Unless you are walking...


 :falldown:


Jim

[Laitch]

Not sure if caliper fitting port will accept a banjo bolt or if there will be enough clearance for crossover line and banjo fitting to fit.

That is a photo of a left side front caliper. I'm unsure what is stopping you from returning the front brakes to the stock configuration of an S. In the attached diagram, which part is stalling progress?

K75S non-Abs set up from MAX BMW fiche.jpg (25.17 kB . 768x542 - viewed 1066 times)

[Panchoplanet]

Martin:
Carlos brake shops, hydraulic specialty shops are all gone, now everybody wants to replace parts, if it's not original equipment your out of luck. I have been in the auto/truck industry for over 35 yrs and I have seen these shops disappear.
Thecableguy:
Good link, I would like to get hands on before I purchase instead of online order. But good to have as last resort.
Laitch:
Can't say that diagram is correct because when I got the bike the abs was already gone. There was one hose dangling from front brake lever and one from r/f caliper, both hoses attached to a steel line that had been cut,and the steel lines I think came from the abs unit  (which was missing)


Thanks for the response.


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[Laitch]

I can't say that diagram is correct because . . .

Never mind the danglers. It's correct for a non-ABS K75S which is what you're trying to create. That hose and those couplings should work on your existing brake calipers. Do you have a two-piece front mud guard?

[The Mighty Gryphon]

Pancho, please humor me by answering some questions.  I'm not really clear what your problem is and what solution you are looking for.

Are you trying to restore ABS to the bike? 

Does your bike have the original handlebars?  Were they replaced by the previous owner?

What happened to the "dangling" lines that came with the bike?

Can you possibly post a couple photos of your right side caliper. 

As far as I know, the drawing that Laitch posted shows the arrangement of lines for the non-ABS K75S for your year.  The line shown in the drawing is 22 1/2" long and should be able to go from the master cylinder to the caliper with the correct fittings at each end.  Can you tell us why you think it won't work?

[Panchoplanet]

Have only front piece of mud guard,don't have rear half. I looked at the non abs setup but it shows a banjo fitting at caliper. I have a flare fitment at caliper.


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[The Mighty Gryphon]

Have only front piece of mud guard,don't have rear half. I looked at the non abs setup but it shows a banjo fitting at caliper. I have a flare fitment at caliper.


Pp.

You have a two piece front fender that is missing the rear piece.

The brake line in Laitch's diagram is correct in that it doesn't have a banjo fitting at the caliper.

[Laitch]

Have only front piece of mud guard,don't have rear half. 

You should have the rear piece of that guard if you reproduce this setup because it contains grommets through which the caliper bridge line passes; they reduce the effect of vibration on that line. It also protects the Hall sensor cover, the coolant/oil pump and the case in general from the effects of debris that might be slung at them and allows for the attachment of a fashionable mud skirt fabricated from a plastic bucket in a color of your choosing.
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[Panchoplanet]

My phone is acting up. Will try again.

[Laitch]

My phone is acting up. Will try again.

I'm lost in the funhouse with that one, Pancho. Back off to give it context and orientation.
Often smartphones need apps downloaded to help with orientation before sending photos.

[Laitch]

I have a flare fitment at caliper.

Try a hollow bolt in there.

[Panchoplanet]

Will have to remove from hand brake and try on caliper.  Was trying to respond earlier but phone or data was wacked and wouldn't send.

[Panchoplanet]

Ok finally got photos to go, for some reason they are flip on there sides.
Like I was trying to respond earlier, bike was in pieces when I got it, abs was gone, had no idea of what went where, just 2 pieces of hose that I joined with a short steel line so I could move bike and be able to stop it.


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[Martin]

What's the US coming to when I can get finally something in OZ done that you guy's can't. When I did my rear brake master cylinder mod a mate introduced me to guy at a local brake shop who as a favour made me up a hose on the spot for $10.00 . Admittedly a one off favour price, however he said if I ever needed hoses or pipes made up they could do it on the spot. My across the road neighbor has a mobile hydraulic hose repair business and he can do them as well but not as cheap as the other guy.  :dunno
Regards Martin.

[Panchoplanet]

Martin,Martin,Martin;
USA isn't what it used to be, all thanks to the "interweb".
All the good old-fashioned shops that I enjoyed back in the days of hot rods and backyard projects where you could take a ride down the road a bit and if they couldn't you still had a couple of other choices.
Nowadays people just want to click on an app and poof, it's done..
Sooner or later it's going to catch up with you in OZ.
For now enjoy it while you can.


The other factor that cripples me is my location, I'm close to nyc and the effect of that proximity is astronomically high rents which cause outfits like machine shops or specialty shops to move away or go out of business.
The only shops around me are fufu hipster and yuppie shops that sell overpriced junk like a corn muffin for  $8.00  :yow .
Pp.

[Panchoplanet]

Sorry Johnny but this red hook is nowhere near my neck of the woods.


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[Martin]

Yeah Pancho I know what you mean, old tradesman are not being replaced when they retire. Although I am building up some contacts with old tradesmen that still do work that nobody wants to do. I found one of apparently two places in OZ that sleeves master cylinders and calipers and he's just down the road and really open and amiable and can supply cups and boots individually. The brake guy told me about the sleeve guy and I believe that there are a lot still out there you just have to dig them out. If you know of any classic vintage motorcycle or car clubs they often know someone who knows somebody that can get the job done. At the moment I am following up a lead on a mob that can do spline replacement
they apparently make splines for mini drag cars. Good luck in your search.
Regards Martin.

[thecableguy]

Sorry Johnny but red hook is nowhere near my neck of the woods.


Pp.

But then your signature line says:
Red Hook, NY


What am I missing?

[Panchoplanet]

But then your signature line says:
Red Hook, NY


My Red Hook is located in Brooklyn NY, and we like to disconnect ourselves from "Brooklyn", so we always don't include "brooklyn" in our signature.


Pp.


What am I missing?