Saved a brick today!

[K_grendell]

The hoses were the submersible type from euro moto electric that came with the kit.

[Elipten]

Excellent


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[nods]

Howdy mate, just so I know what you did (as I'm about to do the same) did you end up getting a new fuel pump, or did the original one work ok?


And have you touched the injectors yet, to get it running?


Would you mind showing me the link to the complete kit you bought from Euro Moto Electrics?


Thanks a lot, and congrats on getting her running after a 20 year snooze!

[jakgieger]

On the injectors, this is an option.  When this set sells, it could be awhile before they get another set... IMHO, the 4 hole injector is a valid upgrade.  I am very pleased with mine (especially power-wise).  Have you removed the fuel rail to look for surprises there?

kit with bosch pump/mahle filter

[nods]

On the injectors, this is an option.  When this set sells, it could be awhile before they get another set... IMHO, the 4 hole injector is a valid upgrade.  I am very pleased with mine (especially power-wise).  Have you removed the fuel rail to look for surprises there?

kit with bosch pump/mahle filter

Thank you!  So I guess that means a new fuel pump if this is the complete kit that K_grendell bought.


Those injectors looks great, but don't ship to Australia  :dunno2:  I'm wondering if it might be worth spending $100 US for those rather than cleaning and getting whatever parts are needed for the original injectors (filter? o-rings?)


Thanks again, I've saved those links.

[jakgieger]

Cleaning your own is by far "cheaper".  The parts are readily available.  You can find the info here if you look...As far as the 4-hole injectors,  the ones on ebay are "recycled".  You could find some in Australia from an injection shop/salvage yard/wrecker!

[nods]

Cleaning your own is by far "cheaper".  The parts are readily available.  You can find the info here if you look...As far as the 4-hole injectors,  the ones on ebay are "recycled".  You could find some in Australia from an injection shop/salvage yard/wrecker!

Sold on that Jack!  I'm not after a fire breathing monster, so the stock injectors cleaned and working properly will do me fine.  Thanks.

[Laitch]

Sold on that Jack!  I'm not after a fire breathing monster . . .

I think Jack's bike is more salsa breath with a side order of whips and chains. :giggles

[Martin]

Fuel pumps can often be persuaded to work again, soak in metho or white vinegar for a week or two. Then apply 12v briefly alternate the connections, working the pump forward and backwards. If the pump shows signs of wanting to move briefly try upping the voltage to 18v.
Regards Martin.

[jakgieger]

I do like speed AND whips make me move faster  :hehehe ...placing me under compression...another good riding song .  Still not sure you have the correct innuendo Laitch pertaining to my predilections.

[Laitch]

I do like speed AND whips make me move faster  :hehehe ...placing me under compression...another good riding song .  Still not sure you have the correct innuendo Laitch pertaining to my predilections.

Well, jack, I'm all about accuracy. Let's delete whips and chains and substitute stilettos and bustiers. :giggles

[jakgieger]

You were at least on the field before.  Now, you're wandering around in the parking lot :deal: .   Are you projecting your needs/issues on me???

[Laitch]

Are you projecting your needs/issues on me???

Not yet, jack, but I'll consider doing that if it's ok.  :hehehe

[nods]

Fuel pumps can often be persuaded to work again, soak in metho or white vinegar for a week or two. Then apply 12v briefly alternate the connections, working the pump forward and backwards. If the pump shows signs of wanting to move briefly try upping the voltage to 18v.
Regards Martin.

Thanks Martin, I've seen someone pulled the pump apart too

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[jakgieger]

Not yet, jack, but I'll consider doing that if it's ok.  :hehehe

NOT OK. :yow   We really should stop .  We might be starting to give the asylum a bad reputation.  People might think we really are Krazy.

[Laitch]

NOT OK. :yow   We really should stop .  We might be starting to give the asylum a bad reputation.  People might think we really are Krazy.

You're right, of course, Jack. In fact, you took the words right out of my mouth. :giggles

[bmwpyro]

People might think we really are Krazy.

umm. too late? but good Krazy  :yes

[K_grendell]

This threat just got really hot!


Nods that link above is what I ordered. Make sure to get the optional filter, and submersible lines that are listed.


I haven't done injectors yet, but I'm going to order the recycled 4 hole nozzles. If I'm going into the fuel rail I'd rather replace everything so it's new and Ethanol compatible I like doing things just once if possible, and I hate to get stranded from lack of due diligence.

[Laitch]

I'm not after a fire breathing monster, so the stock injectors cleaned and working properly will do me fine.  Thanks.

There's not much indication that four-hole injectors greatly enhance performance of the K75; there is some indication that the fuel mixture might need a slight modification to get the engine running optimally after they are installed..

[Martin]

I have been told 4 hole injectors work if they spray directly into the combustion chamber. As this is not the case with the K engine, there is probably nothing to be gained. The performance gains felt on converting, are more than likely the result of new clean injectors against old dirty ones. Until somebody does a Dyno comparison with cleaned and serviced 1 hole injectors against clean serviced 4 hole injectors it's all conjecture.
Regards Martin.

[Laitch]

I have been told . . .

What if I tell you that using lavender talc on a K75 to detect oil leaks attracts land crabs that will puncture the tires?

[The Mighty Gryphon]

One thing to consider about 4 hole injectors beyond that there is no measurable performance difference reported, is that in order to flow the same amount of fuel, the nozzle orifices will necessarily be a lot smaller than what are found in single hole injectors.

Being a mechanical pessimist, when I think of smaller orifices, I think "easier to clog". 

[Martin]

Laitch show me pictures, or a certified report on land crabs being attracted to Lavender talc, and I will believe you.  :dunno On the subject of the injectors, even Osidetiger haven't done a Dyno report on the differences that I can find. Until somebody does a Dyno report it is still conjecture. I would love to find a report either way. Could please over winter build a dyno out of old snow plow parts and submit a report.
Waiting patiently Martin.

[jakgieger]

This threat just got really hot!

WHOA NELLIE :nono , Threats on this site are strictly forbidden.  The last moderator had to take a leave for behavior such as this :deal: .  HOWEVER, smart a## remarks, questionable humor, vague references, passive aggressive remarks/demands, implied violence, and just general ignorance, are not only condoned but encouraged by the inmates.

To all you people named Thomas, the four hole is an improvement on the injector.  Yes, Gryphon, it has a smaller hole.  I personally like smaller holes, since they--- "For gasoline to be burned, three things need to occur. It must be atomized (broken into small particles), emulsified (mixed with air), and vaporized (changed into a rarefied form). The job of the injector is to prepare the gasoline to make the phase change from liquid to vapor."

[Laitch]

I personally like smaller holes . . .

Me, too. It's a preference that unites this great country from the Left Coast to the majestic Great Divide and bountiful Midwest then onward to the effete Eastern Establishment and humidly devout South.