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Offline jjs1234

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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #100 on: June 04, 2016, 10:45:32 PM »
Sorry I meant paint

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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #101 on: June 05, 2016, 10:22:18 AM »
So, you said it, all this work is to have a "burner" for collecting the insurance!
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #102 on: June 05, 2016, 10:32:24 AM »
. . . and then justify to the insurance company why it's worth a lot more than market value. At least I can with my insurance.
Right. :hehehe
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #103 on: June 05, 2016, 10:34:34 AM »
It's easy to buy the extra coverage.  Getting them to pay that amount on a loss is quite another story.
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'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #104 on: June 05, 2016, 04:28:22 PM »
I wanted to take this bike to South America. That's one reason I didn't chop the frame, so I can carry bags. I just wonder since it will be so new, if someone is going to do something stupid...

Anyway, assembled the transmission. I believe the gears are meshed correctly. Had to take it apart again because the input shaft wouldn't move, and a grinding noise.
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #105 on: June 05, 2016, 04:32:59 PM »
I just wonder since it will be so new, if someone is going to do something stupid...
Like steal it or rob you because you look wealthy? That's not really stupid; that's just predators doing what they do, and we've got plenty of home-grown ones that will give you some practice before you leave.
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #106 on: June 05, 2016, 04:47:00 PM »
I agree about the vein hope with the insurance.Never been insured for my own bikes,just for third party but I'd be the one coming off worse any way.I use my own.Its far quicker at resolving issues!
You will need to provide your own also,that is continual vigilance with situational awareness.Especially if you go off the beaten trail.
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #107 on: June 05, 2016, 05:00:14 PM »
Before you head south, spray your bike with a PlastiDip mixture that resembles mold and carry your gear in these—already translated into Spanish and Brazilians will get the picture, too.
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #108 on: June 05, 2016, 05:09:41 PM »
Now that I've really looked at those bags, I'm considering painting my tragkorbs red and lettering them similarly.
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #109 on: June 06, 2016, 07:54:53 AM »
Anyway, assembled the transmission. I believe the gears are meshed correctly. Had to take it apart again because the input shaft wouldn't move, and a grinding noise.
Are the shims back where they came from, or did you mix them up?
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #110 on: June 06, 2016, 09:35:14 AM »
Are the shims back where they came from, or did you mix them up?
I believe them to be in the correct spot.

When installing the gears, they need to be flush with the rear side of the case. Thus it is my understanding that the shims just help the gears to be secure in the case, when the front cover is added.

 I don't believe they have anything to do with preloading like on a rear differential.

It is my understanding that you cannot add shims to the rear of the transmission. Only to the front.
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #111 on: June 06, 2016, 09:18:09 PM »
I believe them to be in the correct spot.
I had my trans apart to replace the snapped gear selector shaft. Was ready to button it up when a bud dropped by ... "Can I see inside?". The shims landed on the bench. Turns out they're not necessarily the same thickness ...
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #112 on: June 06, 2016, 09:19:06 PM »
Correct. Do you remember which ones whent where?

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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #113 on: June 06, 2016, 10:18:58 PM »
I think it would be different in each trans. Lay a straight edge (steel ruler thingie) across the face of the case and measure down to where the shim(s) sit on the shaft. When shimmed both should measure the same.
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #114 on: June 07, 2016, 10:02:18 AM »
Will do. Thanks! I'm thinking it may have been hard to shift due to lack of lube. We will see...

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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #115 on: June 08, 2016, 09:23:14 PM »
Waiting on the shift footpeg powder coat before I can test and complete the gearbox and then put it on the bike.

In the meantime I got these two little cool things. Going to add the Molly 2 the engine oil and gear oil. I have replaced every seal.

Bep 2.0



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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #116 on: June 08, 2016, 11:13:59 PM »
I would avoid using molybdenum additives in the engine oil.  The starter's sprag clutch requires there to be some friction to operate properly.  On my K100RS the molybdenum assembly lube I used on a cylinder head job got into the engine oil and prevented the sprag clutch from engaging.  Only after an engine flush was I able to get it working properly again.
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'94 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #117 on: June 08, 2016, 11:56:33 PM »
+1 for being overly protective.Its an understandable sentiment though.
Lubrication technology is very advanced,"now".More about changing these regularly,to remove the dilutants like fuel or ,if dino,chewed up molecular chains through shear,so modifying the original viscosity.
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #118 on: June 09, 2016, 11:20:26 AM »
I would avoid using molybdenum additives in the engine oil.  The starter's sprag clutch requires there to be some friction to operate properly.  On my K100RS the molybdenum assembly lube I used on a cylinder head job got into the engine oil and prevented the sprag clutch from engaging.  Only after an engine flush was I able to get it working properly again.

have you had any issues with full/partial synthetic oil?
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #119 on: June 09, 2016, 12:51:44 PM »
Synthetic is the way to go, but avoid the moly additive to the engine.
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #120 on: June 14, 2016, 01:22:19 AM »
Today:

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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #121 on: June 14, 2016, 08:32:25 PM »
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #122 on: June 14, 2016, 10:30:55 PM »
Wow?
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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #123 on: June 14, 2016, 11:34:13 PM »
What's with the ? Hah I need to scrape off the red on the Brembo logo

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Re: Conventional but unconventional- My k100 build
« Reply #124 on: June 14, 2016, 11:42:31 PM »
Wow?!?!?
JJS 1234 you go for it.
Keep us posted....
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  • K75s
Current.
TR6R 1973 from new.
Moto guzzi 850 III .1983 from,almost, new.
K75S 1986 from new.vin-0103141
On my second millionth km.give or take a hundred k Kay's.
"The Dude abides. I don't know about you but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there."
All the best!

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