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Offline The Mighty Gryphon

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When You're Far From Home
« on: December 20, 2015, 01:35:21 PM »
I am hoping to do more touring in the future with my K75, and one of my concerns is problems when I'm a couple thousand miles from home.  Despite the reliability of the brick engine, problems can arise, and in my experience, the farther from home the more likely you are to have a problem.  I also know that you never have a problem with anything for which you have a readily available spare.

Obviously, one can't carry a complete bike with them, and even a modicum of spares can take up a lot of luggage space, so I am setting up two spares packages, one for the bike, and one to be kept packed at home ready to mail to wherever the heck I am when the brick decides she wants to spend a little more time there.

So far, on the bike I am looking at a few things that can be "quickly" resolved at the side of the road.  My list so far includes:

Clutch Cable
Throttle Cable
Clutch Lever
Brake Lever
Shift Lever
Fuel Filter
Fuses
Headlight Bulb
Turn Signal Bulb
Tail/Brake Bulb
Tire Plug Kit w/Compressor
Self Vulcanizing Tape

For more involved problems, I am making up a "Rescue Kit" to be packed in a Priority Post Flat Rate box that my wife or someone back home can take to the post office and have in my hands in 2-3 days.  By having everything in one box it saves trying to explain to a non-bricker what the heck I need sent.  The package so far contains the following:

Fuel Pump
HES Assembly
Throttle Position Sensor
Start Relay
Bulb Monitor Unit
Flasher Relay
Load Shed Relay
Fuel Injectors(3)
Engine Temperature Sensor
Thermostat
Fuel Pressure Regulator
Starter Brushes
Alternator Drive Dog

Anyone have any ideas for items I may have left out?  I know I should have engine control computers, but I figure that they would tie up a lot more money in spares than I want.  Plus, there always seems to be a number of them available on line that can be purchased fairly quickly.  Same holds true for coolant hoses which can take up a lot of space.  Other than that, I assume that with a decent maintenance program, engine/drive train mechanicals and brakes should be just about bulletproof.
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Past:
'94 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

Offline motodude

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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2015, 02:22:37 PM »
Interesting post.  I tour a lot and have a few spares, etc.

Couple of thoughts,

1) the cables can be pre-routed along side the existing cables. Eliminating the requirement to remove the tank at the side of the road.
2) frequent maintenance can eliminate the need for some things. And, can reduce some stress too. Things like starter brushes can be eliminated by just cleaning and checking your starter once or twice a year. Same for the monkey nuts.
3) depending on how you source it, an HES assembly can be quite expensive.  They are pretty robust until they get old. If you're worried, just replace your old one and sleep well.
4) I've dropped an RT on more than one occasion, I've never needed a lever. I would suggest that if you go down that hard, you probably don't want to just replace a lever or two and continue to ride the bike. Non RTs may different and if we're talkin' RTs, a mirror or two might be helpful.
5) I like your idea of having a box at home that can be mailed when needed.

Just some random thoughts. As you can prolly tell, I prefer to do too much maintanence than to have to interrupt my vacation to fix things.  That said, I did bring a fuel filter once as I did not get around to replacing it before I left.  It got replaced in Ely, NV.

Tom
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'90 K75RT
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Offline The Mighty Gryphon

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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2015, 03:03:54 PM »
Good thoughts!  I keep an eye on maintenance as well.  However, there are some things that can go wrong and are fairly easy to take care of. 

HES assemblies turn up on eBay from time to time.  I have two working used units in hand right now.  Yes, they will eventually fail, but they have a very high probability to get me home where I can replace the sensors with spares I have in hand.  That is something I would rather not do somewhere "out there". 

Starter brushes are a weak point.  Since I can't predict exactly when even new ones may fail, it is a good idea to have a set where I can have them fairly quickly.  A fuel filter is pretty easy to find at almost every auto parts store, but they also don't take up much space, and when travelling you never really know how clean the gas you're buying is. 

I had an earlier bike knocked over in a parking lot.  As it went down the clutch lever hooked the door handle of the car next to it.  Can you guess which one lost that battle of strength?  Again, they don't take up a lot of space, can be hard to find quickly, and can leave you dead in the water if/when they break.  I am even thinking of one of my old enduro riding tricks of notching the lever to protect the perch. 

I know that riders parallel their spare cables.  Used to do that on my competition bikes, but changing a cable isn't that much of a problem to me as long as I have a spare.  Plus, I think it will be in better shape when I need it if it's packed away somewhere on the bike where it is protected from the elements.

Shit happens, and from my experience and reading on the forums, it usually smells like fuel or electrical problems.  Good maintenance can keep it at bay, but with machines that are 20+ years old, there is only so much you can do, and when it does happen it is nice to have the ability to minimize the hassle of getting back on the road.
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'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 03:34:09 PM »
I carry clutch and throttle cables, a fuel filter, spark plugs, a headlamp, fuses and enough tools to disassemble the entire bike (except the engine or gear-puller for the fork springs).

I also subscribe to Allstate's RV tow plan (they'll tow motorcycles) and I'm prepared to shack up in a motel for a few days if I need to wait for a part via Fedex.

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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2015, 03:40:44 PM »
Spark Plugs!!!  I forgot spark plugs!

Also need to add a coil and plug wires to the rescue package.

Tim, I am using AAA RV Plus rescue/trip insurance.  They are reported to get you the best service when you have a problem on the road.
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  • '91K100RS White/Blue
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'91 K100RS16V "Moby Brick Too"

Past:
'94 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2015, 03:48:16 PM »
Gryph spark plugs, length of wire with small jumper clips, small can of penetrant, disposable lighter, insulation tape, cable ties,  circuit tester or small multi meter. I don't carry a gear lever as they can be straightened, and I carry CO2 bottles instead of a compressor. Other than that I carry the same. In 16 years and 150,000 Ks beside flat tyres three of, I have had two faulty temperature sensor connections which caused bike to flood and not start (just remove fuel pump fuse till it starts and replace as it fires ).I have also had two flat batteries which caused a stuck relay, the first time blew out the side of the battery.I have fitted a battery isolation switch. These bikes are ultra reliable if maintained.
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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2015, 04:14:58 PM »
Good maintenance and a reliable bike is, as already noted, Plan A. To me, Plan B is always fix it on the road and get home. Plan C is phone, towing, credit car, hotel, etc. Speaking of phones - I have wired in a Battery Tender connector and carry a USB adapter so I can put a quick charge on a phone if needed.

A multi-purpose cable repair kit has a length of wire and lots of different types of ends - so you could fix about any type of cable. I got one that fits in a small plastic case.

You need to be visible when you are stuck - especially if it happens at night. Light sticks are good to carry - the chemical kind that you snap and then they glow. I sometimes also carry a reflective strap (and sometimes I even wear it while riding...)

Try doing your next maintenance with the tools you carry - then you'll know if you need some more, or different, tools.
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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2015, 04:46:55 PM »
I think you left off the gift card to Pep Boys, Gryph.

My tank bag holds a second faceshield for night driving, food, water, maps, pencils, sunglasses, headlamp and batteries, a couple of carabiner locks, maps in all their quaintness, and any supplementary layers I may need to wear or shed for changing weather.

In the underseat box are a dial air pressure gauge and a pair of mechanic's gloves. Folded on top of the box is a small packtowel. That's it for there.

In the tail cowl I carry spare headlight lamp, tail light and brake light bulbs in small padded pouch, the air compressor, tire plugs, a tool roll with a set of take-down wrenches plus a combo screwdriver, spare fuses, golf tees for fuel line plugging, a valve stem wrench—just to help others, I hope—and a small bottle with some Go-Jo., along with a couple of rags and a pair of side case hinges. That's it for there.

The side cases are my bike's crashbars. They've taken a couple of titanic drops and what breaks are the hinges—almost as if by design. A spare set lays flat in the cowl or a side case, takes up little space and installs in a couple of minutes.

My cases hold clothes and food,. Raingear, a 45 year-old SVEA 123 stove, and its fuel bottle go into the tail case.

A tent. sleeping bag, sleeping pad, collection of ceramic owls, train timetables for India, Chile and Texas, a spice rack, a pair of crutches, a tourniquet signed by the catering staff of "Rescue Me", my reloading dies, cases and flatnose hardcast bullets for my 44 Rem. mag, my gunpowder dispenser, footbath basin, a pound of Epsom salts in a waterproof, bearproof container and other boring utensils go into a waterproof duffle strapped down on the seat in front of the tail case.

For all other contingencies I depend upon a lifetime's experience in:
    1) the benefits of regular mechanical maintenance;
    2) the bitter taste arising from the neglect thereof and—above all;
    3) magical thinking.
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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2015, 05:03:47 PM »
Also, my accordion in its case gets strapped with the duffel if I'll be gone for more than a couple of days. It serves to ward off pests.
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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2015, 05:10:51 PM »
Gryph a pack of cards so if you can't fix it, at least to can play patience while you wait for help.
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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2015, 07:45:02 PM »
Some good ideas here.  I use an old style flip phone, so the battery will go for about a week.  Still, I carry a 12v charger for it.  I also carry a notebook computer for when I can get WiFi.  Also carry the GoJo and about 5 pairs of nitrile gloves and rags. 

I have a home made buzz box circuit tester that checks for 12v or continuity with various test leads and an LED for checking ABS fault codes.  I like the buzz box because I don't have to look at it, it works in the dark, and I can concentrate on where I am putting the lead.

For insulation tape the best is the self vulcanizing stuff that bonds to itself without adhesive.  Not only will it work on electrical connections, but you can use it to seal leaks in vacuum and coolant hoses as well as cracked/split air intake bushings. 

A 12oz soda bottle has engine oil in it.  It is just enough for a top off about half way through a 3,000 mile trip, and then I can just ditch the bottle. 

I also carry a small microfiber cloth for cleaning classes, faceshields and windscreens.  Doesn't scratch and polishes them nicely. 

My Honda compressor is nice and isn't much larger than a half dozen CO2 cartridges.  It goes with my mushroom tire plugger.    I also have a small battery maintainer with a Hella plug that goes into the aux. power outlet. 

I carry the factory toolkit plus a 1/4" drive ratchet with an extension and a set of sockets up to 14mm.  I also added a 16mm combination wrench, and a set of ball end metric Allen wrenches.

I am hoping to find some good hard copy electrical diagrams to go with my notebook computer which has the BMW factory manual on it.

For roadside marking my touring bike has a pretty good amount of reflective material on the back end.  I am also looking for a good LED strobe.  Would like two so I can set them out upstream of where I am pulled over.  Also have the hazard flashers on my bike.  Night time visibility is good to have, but I seldom ride after dark when on the road.  They are more important for my commuting where I am coming home from work as late as midnight, driving on unlit country roads.

I carry maps, but rely on my Nuvi gps for navigation.  I set my end of day destination in the morning, and then I am free to go wherever I want while the Nuvi keeps track of how and when I will get to my night stop.

I carry a very basic first aid kit along with a few OTC meds(ibuprofen, Imodium, and antihistamine) and some of my prescription meds.  About 20ft of toilet paper in a ziploc bag can be a lifesaver.  A spare pair of reading glasses. 

All my bikes have a spare key taped to the battery, and I have $200 in 20's hidden on the bike in a ziploc sandwich bag along with important documents.  I also have a credit card number stored discreetly in the contacts on my phone.   Don't know if it will work, but it's nice to have, just in case.
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  • '91K100RS White/Blue
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'91 K100RS16V "Moby Brick Too"

Past:
'94 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2015, 09:29:40 AM »
greetings...

aaa rv plus... been towed 4 times... fast to the scene... towed a hundert miles a couple times... towed a couple hundert miles plus a couple times... thats living on the road for you...

id keep it to a minimum and have fun... diminishing returns after a tool kit tior kit pump cables bulbs fuses volt meter wire wire connectors... and 20 pound bag of epsom salts of course...

get out there and commence to whacking chopping sliding and riding... if you break down put it on ebay for local pick up fly home and get another one...

j o
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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2015, 09:49:59 AM »
Johnny, to give credit where credit is due, you were the inspiration for the RV Plus.  I have regular AAA, and they have been great the two times I needed them in the past 20 years so RV Plus was a no-brainer(which made it perfect for me).

To be honest, the Rescue kit was kinda your idea as well if I remember correctly.  I am just fishing for ideas for what to include.  The kit is specifically intended to minimize all the crap I would need to carry to make sure my 20-something brick will get home no matter what.  I know the things that spin and go up and down will outlive me, it's all that peripheral stuff that is the problem. 

Say what you like, this old fart likes his RT, and with all the cafe chopping going on, wants to make it last cuz it's getting harder every day to replace it.
  • In my garage in Marilla, NY
  • '91K100RS White/Blue
Current:
'91 K100RS16V "Moby Brick Too"

Past:
'94 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2015, 10:38:51 AM »
rodger that...

i had a rescue kit out west... all the spares i would need to get back on the road for the normal occurrences... for me it was radiator fan final drive drive shaft and other misc small stuff all boxed up in my trailor...no hes or fuel pump or starter brushes or monkey nutz cause never had one fail...  had the option of tow to trailer and getts car rental to trailor as there was nobody there to overnight it...

here in cheeconsin i have the same rescue box with all the same stuff... butts im a minimalist when it comes to packing the bung and cases spares... after reading your list i thinks im gonna getts some more spares for my rescue box... that way i will have the stuff when i need it... near home and far from home...

anyway... we rolled deep into the wildeness often hauling spare gas in milk jugs... and often seeing no other human beings for hours... i didnt wanna breakdown... butts if we did that was ok too... cause this motobricker just wants to getts some yeeeeehaaaaa...

tmg... you gotts a good plan for dealing with this...

dont forget a floppy hat...











sometimes had the option of rental box truck...









dont forget chains...



and spare tior...



yeeeeehaaaaa...

awe ch1t...



j o
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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2015, 11:26:57 AM »
I hear ya on the basics.  I am paranoid about the alternator drive dog since I had one strip out it's splines on my RT last summer.  Had just enough electron juice in the battery to get home.  Can't go too far without that part, they cost a bunch from the stealer and you don't see them very often on the interweb.

With a box with everything in it I figure I can have almost anybody who can write down an address and get to a Post Office get it to me.  The beauty of these bikes is that you can do an awful lot with a minimal set of tools, nearly all of which are in the tool kit.  Ball end Allen wrenches and 1/4" drive sockets are just a luxury and make a few things a bit more pleasant.
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  • '91K100RS White/Blue
Current:
'91 K100RS16V "Moby Brick Too"

Past:
'94 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2015, 11:59:07 AM »
i gotts the final drive + driveshaft + the moly + the big allen + big socket + the big adjustable in one box... i gotts everything else in another box... labeled box 1 and box 2... have fedex air bills in the pouch... all they gotts to do is take one of the boxes to a fedex joint and fill in the address...

with whats you gonna carry and boxes ready to go... that oughtta be next day worry free...

j o
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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2015, 12:17:29 PM »
Worry free is the way to be.
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  • '91K100RS White/Blue
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'91 K100RS16V "Moby Brick Too"

Past:
'94 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

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Re: When You're Far From Home
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2015, 03:19:48 PM »
You got me thinking about what I do carry. As well as the spares you carry and what I previously mentioned, I carry a first aid kit with extra drugs nurofen,. anti inflammatory. I  also carry sunscreen, insect repellant (we have nasty Ross River Fever carrying Mossies ), chap stick, really sharp multi knife, two torches plus spare batteries, four 450x50 Velcro straps, two x 2 meter pull down straps. Now here is the weird one, a 5 inch square post cap. Serves multiple purposes, first it stops your side stand sinking in the mud and second can be used to put parts in so they don't get lost in the grass, mud ,snow insert whatever's applicable, finger bowl, also dogs water bowl, ash tray, uses only limited by your imagination.
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