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Offline subforry

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Hesitation or dieing after start
« on: April 03, 2015, 11:50:11 AM »
Hi all,

Over the past 2 months my K1100RS has started to be more and more fussy after a cold start.  Now I have to use the throttle advance (choke) or it will die.  There is hesitation that seems like a fuel mixture problem.  This all goes away after about 5-10 minutes of riding.  I changed the fuel filter 2.5 years and 5k miles ago.  It was so bad on my last trip that I tried a bottle of Techron.  The hesitation is like a dirty carb that or poorly tuned carb that does not atomize the fuel until it warms up.   Once it is warmed up, it runs great.

Any thoughts?
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Re: Hesitation or dieing after start
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2015, 07:24:20 PM »
My 1st thought would be to check the water temp sensor. Both the connections, and the resistance reading of it.
I think there is a post in the Lieberry with a chart/listing of approximate resistance/temperature.
Another check would be to look for any vacuum leaks, old, cracked hoses, o-rings, the little caps on the balance ports, etc... then can/will give you grief.
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Re: Hesitation or dieing after start
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2015, 10:00:48 PM »
How about this being unplugged?  Seems like an air temp sensor.  Just changed the oil and found it unplugged.  After I changed the oil and plugged the sensor back in it seemed to run better.  The u clip on the plug is missing, guess I need a green zip tie.
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Re: Hesitation or dieing after start
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2015, 09:02:01 AM »
Yes, that is the air temp sensor.
It would have an effect on the fuel enrichment, but I don't think that it would affect it as much as the water temp sensor though.
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Re: Hesitation or dieing after start
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2015, 09:18:07 AM »
Not to change the subject, but what is that insulation in the photo of the air temp sensor?  Looks like a fuzzy johnny blanket
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Re: Hesitation or dieing after start
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2015, 12:06:41 PM »
Short ride to work and no problems.  Still when I get time I will check the water temp sensor.

The fuzzy Johnny blanket is the common heat and sound insulation you can get at auto parts stores.  It is felt mat about 1/4" thick with a reflective heat resistant material on one side.
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Re: Hesitation or dieing after start
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2015, 12:12:24 PM »
How cold are we talking? Below maybe 40 degrees I have to use full "choke to start," which I can pull off to half after maybe 30 seconds, then i leave that on for a few minutes after taking off
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Re: Hesitation or dieing after start
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2015, 01:10:13 PM »
How cold are we talking? Below maybe 40 degrees I have to use full "choke to start," which I can pull off to half after maybe 30 seconds, then i leave that on for a few minutes after taking off

What I said was not clear.  I meant cold as in when I first start it in the morning or after it has cooled.  Before I almost never use the choke because the air temp is usually 60F
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  • 1996 K1100RS
1981 Suzuki GS850G
1990 Suzuki Katana 1100 (GSX1100F) - sold
1996 BMW K1100RS
2009 BMW K1300GT

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