lisle oil filter wrench slipping

[mac]

I did my last oil change using the kit from beemer boneyard, which had a Bosch filter. I used the Lisle filter wrench that boneyard sells to remove the old filter, and I put on the new filter. No problems. Apparently I must have been an idiot and over tightened the filter when I put it on, because I went to do a change this weekend, and the Lisle tool is slipping on the filter.

I gave up on replacing the filter this time (only ~1k on the filter), but I'll have to get it off next time. Anyone know of a better-fitting filter wrench, or am I going to have to resort to drastic measures (punching holes in the filter housing to get a screwdriver or something in there to turn the damn thing)?

[JamesInCA]

It peeved me to have to do this, but the $7 metal oil filter wrench from one of the big auto-parts chains, which "fit" my filter, was slipping as well - just wouldn't quite grip the oil-covered filter. I had to get that one out the old-fashioned way, with a hammer and screwdriver. Very carefully.

I found one of the BMW wrenches on eBay. The only problem with that one is getting the old filter out. It grabs on it like it'll never let go. Fortunately, the inside hole of a cinder block is just the perfect size to hold the wrench and punch the filter out.

If you can't find the OEM tool, San Jose BMW sells a beautiful machined billet aluminum one that probably works equally well. I've also seen those on eBay.

[mac]

any recollection of what you paid for the BMW wrench?

[JamesInCA]

any recollection of what you paid for the BMW wrench?

I think it was about $20, though I wouldn't consider that a representative price. It wasn't from a vendor, just someone selling off their pile of BMW moto stuff.

[Chaos]

couple things to try...some sandpaper over the top of the filter so the wrench crunches over it.  If that doesn't work put the wrench on the filter and tap a couple of sheet metal screws through the wrench into the the filter.  I've used needle nose vice grips to crunch the filter when no wrench was around. 

[mac]

Thanks for the tips. I tried lining the wrench with nitrile gloves, no good. I tried lining the wrench with a double layer of heavy duty aluminum foil, no good. I hadn't thought of sandpaper, nor the self-tapping sheet metal screws through both the wrench and the filter.

[pkrhd]

I've pulled the oil pan off to replace the oil filter when the wrench would not remove the filter, It doesn't take that much longer to due and u can clean out the oil pan.

[Kyle10]

I've pulled the oil pan off to replace the oil filter when the wrench would not remove the filter, It doesn't take that much longer to due and u can clean out the oil pan.

That's got my vote. Did the same w/mine and was shocked (shocked!) at the collection of mucky muck in there.
Peace of mind is a very good thing.

[argent brick]

any recollection of what you paid for the BMW wrench?

I think it was about $20, though I wouldn't consider that a representative price. It wasn't from a vendor, just someone selling off their pile of BMW moto stuff.

The one from the dealer is made by Hazet and has BMW part # 83 30 0 495 448 engraved on it. It also has a Hazet part # of 2169. I think just a little over $20 is about what I paid for mine.

There are six round casting marks inside the wrench that some people use for reference points to drill holes through the wrench. Then they have holes to shoot sheet metal screws into the filter and hold the wrench in place. No more slipping :)

So, what does an oil pan gasket run these days?

You guys could not have come up with a better time for this post. I am planning to change my oil in the morning. Thanx.

[motodude]

For what it is worth, I've seen professional motorcycle mechanics remove the oil "pan" on a K-bike to get an over tightened oil filter off.

Tom

[CRASH]

When I first got my bike, the first oil change I had this issue.  Pulled the pan to get it off.  I tried a few other methods that normally work, but a gorilla must have done the previous oil change.

[WayneDW]

So, what does an oil pan gasket run these days?

Good question, and I don't see one on the fiche:
there most be one, isn't there?

[JamesInCA]

I do believe there isn't one. I think just a bit of the appropriate sealant along the mating surfaces. I'll check my Clymer's tonight if someone else hasn't looked it up by then.

[CRASH]

Correct, just sealant ... not too much, you don't want it to squish inside the engine.

[skidmore]

Sealant......may I ask specifics? Brand/type etc please.  :yes

[CRASH]

It was gray ... I used Permatex Ultra-Grey Silicone Sealer.  I have been told only use silicon here.

[skidmore]

I used ultra black over the weekend.

[lhead]

There's a video on YouTube addressing this very thing. Chris Harris (Affordable Beemer Service) had a K bike with a filter that wouldn't fit the cup wrench so he drilled opposing holes in the bottom of the wrench and drove sheet metal screws through the holes and into the filter. Worked like a charm and a whole lot less work than pulling the oil pan.