Author Topic: Tire Balance Beads (Read 14278 times)

Big_B · « **on:** April 09, 2013, 11:29:51 PM »

I'm thinking about using these tire balance beads I've been seeing. I like the idea that they balance the tire as it wears and they're easy to install.

Anyone else using them? Steel or ceramic?

johnny · « **Reply #1 on:** April 10, 2013, 12:03:10 AM »

if it were me i would take the tiors off the wheels... install metal valve stems... balance the wheels... then when getting tiors installed have them line up that dot opposite the valve stems and never balance the tiors again...

dyna beads... ride on... counteract... others... i believe they all work... butts i also believe tiors are pretty well balanced from the factory these days...

j o

TimTyler · « **Reply #2 on:** April 10, 2013, 12:12:42 AM »

Oh, great. A Dynabeads thread :(

There are dozens of these threads on every online motorcycle board. They go on for pages and pages.

In those threads 90% of the people who have used them say they work.

In those threads 90% of the people who have not used then say they could never possibly work.

Then there's a link to a youtube video of beads in a water bottle on a hand drill.

Then some guy with a degree is some science things uses a bunch of words in an extended post that most wrench-types can't understand.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Big_B · « **Reply #3 on:** April 10, 2013, 12:46:20 AM »

Quote from: TimTyler on April 10, 2013, 12:12:42 AM

Oh, great. A Dynabeads thread :(

There are dozens of these threads on every online motorcycle board. They go on for pages and pages.

In those threads 90% of the people who have used them say they work.

In those threads 90% of the people who have not used then say they could never possibly work.

Then there's a link to a youtube video of beads in a water bottle on a hand drill.

Then some guy with a degree is some science things uses a bunch of words in an extended post that most wrench-types can't understand.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

LOL Why do I get the funny feeling you're not a fan of them? I didn't know if they worked or not. Guess I should apply the old "if it seems to good to be true, then it probably is" theory on this one.

wmax351 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 10, 2013, 01:45:22 AM »

They do work. Its is a lot of physics stuff. I won't bore you with the details, I'll post them later. Basically, you can't think of the wheel as rotating on a completely fixed axle. Any imbalance results in higher energy dissipation state. The beads arrange themselves into a position of lowest energy for the system (wheel, tire, beads). Truck tires use a similar system, though often not with beads.

Scott_ · « **Reply #5 on:** April 10, 2013, 06:35:17 AM »

The only drawback I personally have with them is cleaning them up when changing the tire the next time......Unless someone has a good way to recover them other than using a vacuum to clean them up off of the floor.....
I think Drake mentioned the idea of using the larger "air soft pellets" instead. Yes you have to put them in the tire as you mount it, but they won't have any chance of getting stuck/caught in the air valve when checking/filling air. Short of buying the screened fill valve.

cmichael · « **Reply #6 on:** April 10, 2013, 09:21:25 AM »

I have them in now and they work just fine. Poured them in thru the stem, have put roughly 200 miles on the bike(still cold here) at speeds up to 90 and cant notice a thing. I do think I hear them 'spin down' as I come to a red light.

detbmw · « **Reply #7 on:** April 10, 2013, 10:38:07 AM »

Quote from: Scott_ on April 10, 2013, 06:35:17 AM

The only drawback I personally have with them is cleaning them up when changing the tire the next time......

I have a buddy that puts women's hose inside a small vacuum then sucks them up.

mystic red · « **Reply #8 on:** April 10, 2013, 07:51:56 PM »

Some astute motobricker reviewed a Marc Parnes tire balancer here. Pay no attention to the two dissenters piling on after the review. They are relying on voodoo and black magic to balance their tires.

johnny · « **Reply #9 on:** April 10, 2013, 08:56:50 PM »

i often wear womans hose... sometimes while vacuuming...

j o

racinrich · « **Reply #10 on:** April 10, 2013, 10:07:00 PM »

use them 3 different bikes, worst bike I could not see anything in mirrors at 50 . put beads in and perfect.I use them I buy them .this method is the only way they balance big bus and truck tires,they put a bag of beads in tire customer drives off vehicle shaking ,it hits 40 mph bag breaks ,vehicle goes smooth. I am not a spokesperson but I did stay at a holiday in last nite :hehehe

TimTyler · « **Reply #11 on:** April 10, 2013, 10:12:49 PM »

I'm going ride north to BestRest and give the beads a try ASAP. http://www.bestrestproducts.com/ Looks like an interesting selection of products. Anybody been there?

racinrich · « **Reply #12 on:** April 10, 2013, 10:21:22 PM »

note on a bike they go in thru the valve stem. I use dynabeads check website for uses

wmax351 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 11, 2013, 12:51:14 AM »

The beads are basically just ceramic blasting media. It would be awesome if someone did a group buy.

mjydrafter · « **Reply #14 on:** April 11, 2013, 02:42:21 PM »

Guys the generally accepted DIY replacement is airsoft beads. I have them in the front of my K and had them in both tires on my old CB900c.

I even have them in my winter set up - nonTDI -Jetta. :neener:

They work.

Scott_ · « **Reply #15 on:** April 11, 2013, 05:51:54 PM »

Quote from: mjydrafter on April 11, 2013, 02:42:21 PM

Guys the generally accepted DIY replacement is airsoft beads.
They work.

I'm thinking that I'm going that route the next tire change of the '95.
I still have a new in package 2/1oz setup for the '97 I haven't installed yet, waiting till the next tire change probably this fall.

mjydrafter · « **Reply #16 on:** April 12, 2013, 08:28:52 AM »

I will admit that I'm still trying to come up with a good reclamation technique. So far I'm thinking that I may get a larger piece of sonotube to act as a corral, for when they inevitably come bouncing out during a dismount.

At least the powder I've used in a past life as a truck tire guy was a bit easier to work with come dismount time. Just dismount as usual and vacuum out. But as you might know truck tires are much bigger and seem to contain stuff better...

That or a holesaw through the tread at the top and just roll the tire around and catch them in a baggie... :dunno This would be for a thoroughly worn out tire of course. :yes

Just spitaballin here... :eek:

racinrich · « **Reply #17 on:** April 12, 2013, 10:31:37 AM »

buy large quantity from dyna and sell to your friends

skidmore · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2015, 01:31:34 PM »

I thought I would do the proper thing and search for a thread before creating a new one. A few "dynabeads" threads were returned and this is the first one I clicked. Looks appropriate to resurrect :2thumbup: The thread I read over on ADVrider turned pretty intense. They work! They're a joke! I'm not using them! I will use them ONLY!

The last front tire I had mounted I was chatting with the guy at the shop (a local independent shop) as he was telling me he had a challenging time getting things balanced. I brought up "those dynabeads". From what I had read, they seemed like the greatest thing since teflon coating (and beer). So the dude goes ya they work great. I think it was 10 bucks extra he said he would have to charge a customer. Screw that. Just mount my tire dude, and I'll buy my own bottle dump them in when I get home LOL!

Fast forward a few months and I'm at a different shop getting a back tire mounted. The guy asked me if I wanted to balance traditional or dynabeads. I asked how much extra for dynabeads. Nada. Zilch. I asked his opinion of them rather than go by things I've read and things others have said. He thumbed-up them and I said dump 'em in! OMFG the ass end of my machine has never been so smooth. I am a firm firm believer in them. The aforementioned front tire deserves to have its lead weights pulled off and some beads dumped down its little throat.

The crux of my search for dynabeads threads was to ask if anyone who uses them has noticed more consistent wear of the back tire. I'm a little less than half tread (on a Shinko Tourmaster 230) and am not noticing uneven wear. The previous two 230s had begun to exhibit uneven wear pattern by now. I'm wondering if the dynamicity (made that word up, yo!) of the beads is contributing?

552255 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 13, 2015, 10:26:26 PM »

I don't think it matters a whit on my bike...the tire wears unevenly no matter what. Beads are good if you can get the new tire on the rim yourself and not pay the 50 bucks etc. for install.

johnny · « **Reply #20 on:** March 14, 2015, 09:30:35 AM »

balance the wheels first... then mount tiors with dot in proper position... good to go... never have to balance again...

j o

keith g · « **Reply #21 on:** March 15, 2015, 05:06:49 PM »

i went into walmart and bought a tube of copper coated BB's.........they work great...!

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Author Topic: Tire Balance Beads (Read 14278 times)