Author Topic: Fuel filter and strainer replacement -- tougher than it looks  (Read 12916 times)

Offline cy7878

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Just venting and also seeking advice.

While waiting for my gear box to come back from the dealer, my Mehler fuel filter arrived to me from Amazon.  Pulling the old filter out was actually pretty hard because the space limitations.  AFter getting the old filter out, I can see that it had a production date of 89.  And I saw crud spilling out of the input end when I pulled it off the hose, so changing it was definitely something that had to be done.  But even after loosing then screw clamp, it did take some effort to pull the pose off the connectors.  Definitely was not something easy.

Then pulling the fuel pump off by the clip was also harder than I thought.  I did eventually managed to pull the clips hard enough I was able to get the fuel pump out.  The old strainer was cut where the input hose supposed to go, so it essentially had a big hole on the side.  That plus the vibration damper (a big solid rubber sleeve) was 26 years old and been soaking in gasoline all this time, made it kind of unpleasant to work with.  Since I was unable to slip my new strainer over the tank opening (reason why the PO had cut the vent/input hose connector on old strainer), I just wiped off the old one and placed it back.  WHen I tried to put the fuel pump back, of course I broke the clip on the plastic support ring on one side.  I figure, one side is good enough and just put everything back.....


Now I have a headache from breathing the gas fumes.....

I have to say, changing the filter was not pleasant.  trying to change the strainer was hard.  Breaking the support ring clip was @#$%%^. 


arrrhhhh
Chuck

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Re: Fuel filter and strainer replacement -- tougher than it looks
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2013, 12:35:24 AM »
greetings cy7878..

stick with it and very soon you will be a proficient motobricker...

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Re: Fuel filter and strainer replacement -- tougher than it looks
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2013, 02:46:59 AM »
as i texted on another post, i am waiting for a fuel level sensor to arrive from the UK ( im in Capetown ). im not looking forward to putting it all together again. im having trouble getting hold of the correct 8 mm fuel line. i suppose one has to be very careful and slow replacing the pump. does one connect the 2 terminals on pump before inserting pump in its position or does one use a flexible tool and connect 2 terminals once the pump is clipped in position? btw. i visited La Jolla in 73. loved it. was very tempted to try get a green card. 
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Offline Snowy

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Re: Fuel filter and strainer replacement -- tougher than it looks
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 04:29:41 AM »
When I changed my fuel pump first thing I did was to empty the tank of fuel - I would recommend that's the first thing to do plus it allows you to get all the crud and water out. You have removed the fuel cap surround I assume as it gives better access. When I refitted the new pump and sock, I prefitted the two wires and the fuel hose to it - trying to get those on in situ would be a nightmare. Tip - to fit the rubber vibration damper to the fuel pump, warm it up a bit first which will make it more pliable.
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Offline cy7878

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Re: Fuel filter and strainer replacement -- tougher than it looks
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 10:02:42 AM »
I didn't disconnect the power wires because I saw there was plenty of wire to allow maneuvering.  You should disconnect the battery though because the tank is all metal, you can short something easily. 

The problem with draining the tank is I don't (yet) have a container for the gasoline.  I think next time (if ever) I attempt the job, that will be the thing to do, or get one of those war gas masks to avoid the fume.

I also so the after market pumps on ebay that for something like $80, you get the new rubber damper, pump and new strainer. I this one goes, I may try that.
Chuck

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Offline JamesInCA

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Re: Fuel filter and strainer replacement -- tougher than it looks
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 06:27:00 PM »
There are different "school of thoughts" on the wiring, hoses, and whether to empty the tank.

DEFINITELY disconnect the battery, regardless.

It's completely possible to do it with a relatively full tank. I've done it both full and empty. And draining the tank is a pain.

One of the arguments in favor of doing it with the contacts immersed is that sparking is less likely if the metal parts (pump terminals/socket/screwdriver/whatever) are submerged. Additionally, there's no oxygen when immersed, so tapping metal bits together unexpectedly shouldn't result in combustion.

If you drain the tank, unless you really drain it, so it is dry, and then blow the fumes out with compressed air, you're still going to have gas fumes, plus oxygen, in the tank. These can ignite if you whack metal things together and create a spark. A nearly-empty tank is arguably less safe than a nearly-full tank. Draining it dry and blowing out the fumes is certainly the safest method.

Logistically, I rather prefer to make most of the connections in the tank. Wiggling things around with hoses attached seems much more awkward for me. Doing it in the tank also means I ensure that the screws on hose clamps are positioned to be accessible, whereas if I attach things outside the tank, I may end up putting the hose clamp screw in a place where I then have to remove the part again to access the hose clamp. The pump wires on mine are plenty long enough to rest the pump on the outside of the tank without disconnecting them first, so I do tend to leave them connected.

I use a 1/4-inch socket and a thumb wheel attachment inside the tank. (Like this: http://www.sears.com/craftsman-finger-grip-socket-adapter-3-pk-/p-00943401000P?PDP_REDIRECT=false&s_tnt=39869:3:0) All the hose clamps on the bike that I know of use 7mm screws. The terminals on the pump are 7mm and 8mm.

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Re: Fuel filter and strainer replacement -- tougher than it looks
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 08:08:38 PM »
Me too! Fuel filter change on (new to me) 93 k75s.

Ran out of gas today. Right as I pulled into my driveway. "Well... guess today's fuel filter day!"

Read the Clymers page. Decided not to remove the tank. Should have depressurized though!
Disconnected negative terminal. (Silly to have to move that brain to get at it.)
Removed filler cap. Taped an old towel around the tank for getting at the filter job.

First clamp of fuel filter, on the output side, easily reachable with a long screw driver.
But removing that output hose... PRESSURE RELEASE! gas splatters a bit. *depressurize dummy*

Second clamp, on the fuel pump, was a muy difficult. *get a, preferably short, ratchet nut driver*
That second clamp took me probably 20 minutes... glad for a bright flashlight that doesn't break teeth ;)
(and just a touch of cussing. But cheerfulness is less wearing than frustration.)

Out of the tank comes a shiny, BMW fuel filter with an 08/10 stamp on it. Oh, well, "better to know than to not know"
On goes a new NAPA 3032 ($5).
Second clamp installed with screw face at the front of the tank (hopefully more accessible)
rather than at the back side in the midst of the pump wires.

Call AAA and 30 minutes later they arrive with 2 gallons (@$4.5ea) of 91octane.
Started the bike, let 'er idle for a few, came in to report. Will do a test ride now to the filling station. cool shades
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Offline Uffda

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Re: Fuel filter and strainer replacement -- tougher than it looks
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2013, 09:14:08 PM »
You had AAA come to your DRIVEWAY with gas?  I'd love to have been a fly in the cab of the AAA driver when he pulled away from your driveway and listened in to his discussion on the cell phone. :yes
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Re: Fuel filter and strainer replacement -- tougher than it looks
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2013, 09:48:22 PM »
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Second clamp, on the fuel pump, was a muy difficult. *get a, preferably short, ratchet nut driver*

These come in handy although the $5 might be cost prohibitive.


Offline JamesInCA

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Re: Fuel filter and strainer replacement -- tougher than it looks
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2013, 02:11:48 AM »
(Silly to have to move that brain to get at it.)
Just remove the lead at the bolt on the transmission.

Offline Snowy

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Re: Fuel filter and strainer replacement -- tougher than it looks
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2013, 03:13:35 AM »
Or just disconnect the 4 pin fuel pump connector - easier still.
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