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Offline Hadyn

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Back firing
« on: January 15, 2013, 12:22:21 PM »
Is it normal for a loud back fire on quick deceleration it has happened a couple of times. and i think i read somewhere that some popping noises were expected but this is louder.

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Offline detbmw

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Re: Back firing
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 12:27:43 PM »
I have read that it is common. When I rode my K75S 300 miles home when I bought it, it backfired a few times on rapid deceleration.

Now I never notice it. I don't know if it is the molded ear plugs that I now wear keeping me from hearing it, or if I have unconsciously changed my riding style on that bike so that it no longer backfires.
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Re: Back firing
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 12:47:43 PM »
"They all do that."

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Now I never notice it. I don't know if it is the molded ear plugs that I now wear keeping me from hearing it, or if I have unconsciously changed my riding style on that bike so that it no longer backfires.

This. At least for me, I found that the more I rode it the more I subconciously "learned" not to use heavy engine braking on a K75.  I can't remember the last time a K75 backfired on me.

When I bought my K75RT I almost didn't buy it because it backfired on me several times when I test rode it.  Now I know better.
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Offline Hadyn

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Re: Back firing
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 12:52:36 PM »
Good to know that its not getting ready to blow up on me .......Yet.

Offline rbm

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Re: Back firing
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 08:18:17 PM »
My K75 afterfires on decel as well so I researched the reasons and possible rectification.  Here's what I've collected:

1) check that the throttle position switch on the rear of the throttle bodies is working - when the throttle is close you should have continuity on one set of the contacts .. this cuts the fuel supply to the motor if the revs are over say 2,000 rpm. The throttle switch position is adjustable.

2) there is an air by-pass that adjusts the fuel mixture at low air speeds .. under the fuel tank inside the air cleaner bits.. but check no (1) first. This air mixture is normally set with a CO2 meter.

3) Another thing that can cause the afterfiring on deceleration is a leak anywhere in the leading 20 (or so) inches of the exhaust system. There is a gasket between the header and muffler that may be deteriorated.  The BMW replacement exhaust gasket is 18121457142, but at $16.83 it's possible that Permatex Ultra-Copper high temp RTV silicone gasket maker #101BR may work also. Good to 700˚F intermittent. Available in auto parts stores.

4) Could be the fuel pressure regulator, measure fuel pressure...should be 2,5 bar.  Next, check the water temp sensor.... measure the resistance between contact 10 and 13 at the FI ECU connector. You should measure ~2,5 Kohm at 20 degree Celsius.

If all of these areas of the bike are in spec on your K75, then the advice above about throttle control should be followed.
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Offline Hadyn

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Re: Back firing
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 11:50:11 AM »
Unfortunately I am a moron when it comes to working on the bike so i will have to get some help and a manual to check some of theses points thanks for the help. Much appreciated

Offline Snowy

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Re: Back firing
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 01:50:42 PM »
My R1200GSA pops and farts (techie terms) on the over run all the time and is perfectly normal for this bike. I have to admit to a certain liking of the effect and is great for pretending to be bit rebellious at times. The K1100RS by comparison is smooth and quiet - after I put the OEM can on after having a noisy Remus.
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Re: Back firing
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 02:05:28 PM »
Pull the clutch in before/while braking.  Engine braking is what causes it. Your front brakes should be primarily what slows you down anyhow, not engine braking the rear tire because:

a) it's proper riding technique

b) it can cause unnecessary rear spline wear. (Brake pads are much less expensive than drive shafts and final drives.)


I would not worry about it.

I even covered it in my intro to K75s thread:

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K75 BACKFIRING: "They all do that."  If you're used to using moderate to heavy engine braking to slow down then a K75 will overfuel a bit and backfire.
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Offline Jimbenge

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Re: Back firing
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 08:36:14 PM »
RBM is spot on, I have had several K100s and K75s that backfired as you describe.  And everytime it was the throttle position switch.  Some people say they can adjust them by listening to them, I guess my hearing is bad so I always take the boot off and wires and adjust them using a multimeter.  easy fix as it is out in the open.  Good Luck
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Offline WoahGold

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Re: Back firing
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 11:24:44 PM »
+1 to what Duck said.

I've had it happen on mine a few times.
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Offline Hadyn

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Re: Back firing
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2013, 09:22:55 AM »
Thanks, Guys

I have a Honda Sabre 1100 which i use and its tough to get used to the different riding techniques of each one.

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