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Offline BBQ_SqaureD

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New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« on: June 11, 2023, 12:02:32 PM »
Hey all! Just bought a BMW 75kt.
Decided to join here, hopefully 🤞 I can get it running again!
This is my first dip into the motorcycle world.
Rode it once and the fuel pump died, replaced the pump and filter along with numerous hoses. It runs now. But not very good! Hoping that someone can point me in the right direction?!? I’ll upload videos of my issue.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2023, 12:07:33 PM »
Welcome!

Has it been sitting idle for a long time?  If it has, throw some Techron fuel system cleaner in the tank and take it out for a couple long rides.  After a couple tanks are run through the injectors, the engine should be running better.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2023, 12:15:04 PM »
I’ve dumped the old fuel out. There wasn’t much in it, but I have put fuel cleaner in it. I did mess with the throttlebody screws. Rookie mistake figured that out after I shouldn’t have touched them. Before the fuel pump went out, it was idling at. 1,200rpm didn’t seem right.
I put a carb tuner on it

https://youtube.com/shorts/TY7CKlqdYZ8?feature=share

No matter what I do it won’t run right.

Edit. I don’t really think it ever sat long the original owner drove it quite a lot.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2023, 05:09:34 PM »
Once I had a Collie pup. Dug a hole and covered him up. Now I sit there by the hour. Waiting for a Collie-flower.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2023, 07:38:04 PM »
Actually cleaned them out. Major difference! But I will still send them out! There wasn’t any fuel coming out of 2 and 3 soaked em. They woke up the bike
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2023, 07:17:33 PM »
Update. Injectors came back! They were definitely clogged!
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2023, 07:18:43 PM »
Thanks for the update; please keep us in the loop.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2023, 11:27:56 AM »
Ran great! First time. Went for a second ride. Back to cutting out
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2023, 12:33:52 PM »
Be sure each spark plug wire's terminal is firmly connected to its spark plug. The wire cannot be wiggled or removed easily if it is connected correctly. Inspect each plug to verify its gap is correct.

What you also can check right now is the condition of the z-hose—a hose connecting the crankcase to the air box on the camshaft cover side of the engine. See the attached photo from Euro MotoElectrics. If it’s cracked and leaking, it will make the fuel mixture too lean resulting in the engine’s cutting out and often being hard to start. Leakage of the throttle body manifolds can also cause that, but checking those can come later.

There is more to verify in your future because you have "messed" with the throttle body screws but these two are a good beginning and might get you reliably rolling again, if the correct planets align.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2023, 01:37:19 PM »
Thank you! I ordered a couple of new things for it. One by one! I’ll eventually get it going
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2023, 07:48:28 PM »
https://youtube.com/shorts/NquDdyPpVic?feature=share

Here’s its current state. I’ve begun to wonder if I should have passed on it! This is my first motorcycle! And I’m starting to get discouraged with it!

I also carb cleaned everything to make sure no leaks. No changes
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2023, 08:22:03 PM »
Do I need to drop the motor to access the air box and to replace the entire throttlebody, since I have a replacement sitting here
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2023, 09:11:41 PM »
No. Why are you replacing the throttle bodies? Download the BMW K100/K75 service manual here.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2023, 09:15:24 PM »
No. Why are you replacing the throttle bodies? Download the BMW K100/K75 service manual here.

Process of elimination. Wanting to take it out and check behind everything. Because I’m at a loss at this point. Plus I’m wanting to replace the rubber even though it looks good. Just a preventative measure
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2023, 09:25:53 PM »
Unless you know what you're looking at and know how it works, I don't recommend that course of action. The process of elimination can be done more easily when you have the engine in and running no matter how rough it's running.
Good luck with your Brick!
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2023, 09:33:15 PM »
Thank you for the advice and the upload.. I did notice. The fuel tank only had 3 lines hooked up. Fuel return fuel to the rail line and then the vacuum one from the block.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2023, 09:33:34 PM »
Clogged injectors tell me that there is a bunch of crap in the fuel system. You need to find it and get it cleaned out.

Have you changed the fuel filter? 

Are you absolutely sure there is no shit in the fuel rail?  Did you clean it out while the injectors were getting cleaned?  You may have just reclogged your injectors.  The rails on idle bikes have been known to rust from the water absorbed by ethanol gas.

Is there any dirt laying in the low parts of the fuel tank? 
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'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2023, 09:35:47 PM »
Clogged injectors tell me that there is a bunch of crap in the fuel system. You need to find it and get it cleaned out.

Have you changed the fuel filter? 

Are you absolutely sure there is no shit in the fuel rail?  Did you clean it out while the injectors were getting cleaned?  You may have just reclogged your injectors.  The rails on idle bikes have been known to rust from the water absorbed by ethanol gas.

Is there any dirt laying in the low parts of the fuel tank?

Tank is spotless, cleaned it out at work. But never thought about the rail itself.
But yeah I replaced the pump and filter. Along with the hoses
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2023, 09:45:41 PM »
I’m wanting to replace the rubber even though it looks good. Just a preventative measure
If they have been proven not to leak, money would be better spent elsewhere. I can send you my PayPal address; personalized prayers are available at low rates.

Learn how to do a basic tuneup while the thing still runs before it's messed up further.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2023, 09:49:15 PM »
Take the rail apart and soak it in white vinegar for a day or so.  What comes out after the soak will give you a clue as to your problem.  While it's soaking you can try cleaning the injectors out again. 

The fact that the bike ran well right after you had them cleaned and then got bad again sounds like they got plugged while you were running it.
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'94 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2023, 09:53:16 PM »
I went ahead and bought new injectors. But I will have these cleaned again for spares. But I will definitely soak the rail. Thank you for the suggestion.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2023, 10:28:19 PM »
About that hose running from the tank to the crankcase, it can cause problems and has been modified in countless Bricks. Read the attached service bulletin.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2023, 08:39:42 AM »
About that hose running from the tank to the crankcase, it can cause problems and has been modified in countless Bricks. Read the attached service bulletin.
that’s why I was just going to replace all the remaining rubber. Including the fuel pressure regulator.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2023, 08:49:12 AM »
that’s why I was just going to replace all the remaining rubber. Including the fuel pressure regulator.
My statement in Reply#14 sums up my view of the situation. Good luck with your Brick.
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Re: New Possesion. Rough Running Brick
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2023, 08:53:25 AM »
Worth a shot at least, it’s soaking this morning. At this point I’m willing to try anything lol
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