War-Clouds-in-the-Horizon

[DRxBMW]

Interesting discussion on BIG Brother's future regulations concerning motorcycles.

Sad day in the USA if this bullshit would ever be legislated.

Gary
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Do you like to do a bit of maintenance? I do, but I wouldn’t be able to under this legislation. Frangible bolts, which can only be removed by a dealer with special tools, will prevent any part being changed and all the electronics will be locked down and accessible only to authorized dealers.
 
Some of the new measures being looked into throughout Europe include tamper proof designs which can only be altered by manufactures. Kiss your own modifications goodbye!

Not even professional shops will have access to the code unless they are approved, so forget that ex-race team genius mechanic working on your bike.
 
Even the size of tires will be prescribed and your bike will be subject to roadside inspection, and confiscation, if you do not comply.
 
And if you think that all of this is of no interest to U.S. riders you’d be wrong. Bureaucrats are now part of a world-wide community, and once the idea of raising safety through high visibility clothing or enforcing anti-tampering regulations has been introduced in one part of the world, it won’t be long before everyone else seeks to catch up.
 
So is it all doom and gloom? Well, ironically no. Let’s start at the beginning again. You may have a painfully low opinion of your Congressman or Senator. You may think that he or she is a power-mad ingratiate with the sexual morals of an alley cat and the fiscal probity of Al Capone, but they represent the best political system in the world: one person, one vote and what passes for free and fair elections. Having worked in the old Eastern Bloc countries under Communism, I know that our democracy is truly a thing of beauty and wonder. Better still, politicians live in fear of you – they truly do.

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[CubPilot]

They can get my wrenches the same time they get my guns.   There are few guarantees, but this I can guarantee will be a hell of a fight.

[motodude]

Sic semper tyrannis.

[ttown95LT]

That is the one good thing about the Harley crowd, at least the ones around Tulsa are organized enough to fight off most government interventions, we're still aloud to ride helmetless here because of them. Probably a good 3/4 of em have no motorcycle endorsement either. I still wished the government would go after all the careless pickup owners around here that assume whatever they throw in the back of the truck will remain there regardless of wind, turns, bumps, etc., our streets get littered with couches, chairs, dressers, ladders, paint buckets, etc. every week just because they refuse to tie anything in place.

[CRASH]

While I know they don't give a damn about rights in this country anymore, too many violations, discrimination, safety concerns, manufacturing issues (none of the corps are going to let this slide in) ... I don't ever see this coming to pass.  It is another knee jerk, dip shit potential bill written by some ignorant "I know what is better for you than you do" ass wipe that will get exposed as a child molester.

And while I love organized bike groups ... it is those guys with the loud pipes that just fucked us in CA with the new exhaust law that got passed - note a redundant law ... all they needed to do was enforce the law already on the books. We have too many morons in our own ranks and are regularly our own worst enemy.

[Rick G]

The really sad part is that these stupid bastards of pollies do think it will make a difference.
Italy has had laws regarding the home repair of vehicles for years and it has not made 0ne chit of difference to the condition of cars on the road.
I would not trust any of the bike shop mechanics in my area to do any work on my bike.
When you contact your local member remind him/her that you are one of the "unimportant people who elected them" it usually gets the message across quickly.

[wmax351]

All that will happen is enterprising people will switch out the parts. Frangible bolts? Just replace them with normal bolts. Just look at what happens when Apple, etc try to lock down their phones. People get around it.

In some cases, the requirements for special codes, etc could be pursued as anti-competitive practices by many groups.

Its just fear mongering. The US will not have that. Even CA doesn't have it too bad. Although the smog laws can be pretty ridiculous (I couldn't have modified my old (1979) RX7 to run CLEANER. IE: Closed Loop Fuel injection, new Catalytic Converter, Clean burning 2-stroke oil injection (rather than crankcase oil).), its not like they are unneeded. Compare the Bay Area's air to LA, and you can see why the smog laws are in place.

Its hard to find a balance, but banning loud pipes is pretty popular and reasonable. The Asshole who blasts down my street at 6:30 am on the way to classes with his straight pipe equipped Interceptor really gets my goat. Finally getting to sleep after a long night of studying, only to be woken up by the undeniably nice sound of a V4, but at 10 times the reasonable volume.

[frankenduck]

my old (1979) RX7

I had one of those. Great car. I just replaced the cat with a straight pipe.  I'd put the cat back on every two years to pass emissions testing. ;D

[wmax351]

my old (1979) RX7

I had one of those. Great car. I just replaced the cat with a straight pipe.  I'd put the cat back on every two years to pass emissions testing. ;D

Haha. Very true.

Mine actually was a '79, so technically only needed the "Thermal Reactor" and no cat. Mine had one added from a later engine at some point. I guess the chassis had 335k miles on it (the ODO only showed 35k). I bought it from a guy in scotts valley, so It wouldn't have needed to pass the enhanced dyno testing smog check for when I bought it, but if I had kept it, it would have not been able to pass.

A family friend has a pristine '75 Porsche 914. He (in true engineer form) had his mechanic redo the EFI system with aerospace grade, gold plated wiring components, and a new catalytic converter. Every year the DMV sends him a letter offering him a thousand dollars to turn in his "Polluting Clunker." He sends back a smog test with perfect numbers.

[Rick G]

Yeah I agree with the loud pipes, we have some asshole come past here some mornings at 5.30 and wake us. Just because we are on a lonely road doesn't mean we aren't here and we hear the prick commimh for miles.
There are always more ways around all the restrictions than there are laws. So far there are no compulsory checks here yet but it is commimg.
As usual when you complain to a pollie they nod wisely and agree and do anything but what is right and usually to serve their interests. i.e. getting re-elected