K1100RS by wooboodoo

[thestza]

Any updates here? Sooooo much craft going into this one. Need more!

[Mad_trbo]

Anyone know which Nitron shock wooboodoo used in his build?

[Laitch]

Anyone know which Nitron shock wooboodoo used in his build?

It's identified under the fourth photo in Reply #2.

[frankenduck]

Factory shocks on K1100s are not very good.

A good bang for the buck replacement is the YSS MZ366-385TRL-01

[Mad_trbo]

It's identified under the fourth photo in Reply #2.

Appreciate the response, saw that and it’s an ok lead

-but-


NTR R1 is a general model number hey use to identify their entry level shock.  They make this shock for many manufacture shock replacements.  Ducati / Yamaha / Kawasaki / Harley / Honda / etc…

Because the dimensions for the clevice and eyelet mounting points are specific, I was trying to avoid sifting through all the manufacture shocks.   It to mention length and shock throw are specific too.

[Laitch]

Because the dimensions for the clevice and eyelet mounting points are specific, I was trying to avoid sifting through all the manufacture shocks.   It to mention length and shock throw are specific too.

Come on now, you've got to do some of the work. 

Wooboodoo has been off the radar here for a fair few years. Maybe you should contact wbd by using the personal message feature here. You could contact the manufacturer for specs, also. They might have an archive for reference. Brush up on you're Italian grammar.    It is also fair to say that a replacement shock will have the same, or a very similar eye-to-eye length and spring diameter for clearance purposes.
Good luck on your search. If you're interested in high quality, look a Ted Porter's site for the TFX internal floating piston or reservoir shocks.

[Mad_trbo]

Appreciate the response and I realize this persons been off radar for some time.  Casting many lines with the hopes of getting a bite.   I’ll have to circle back to the Ted Porter site, I have their progressive fork springs on the way.

When I mentioned to Ted what I was attempting he suggested I stick with the yss shock,  but I want rebound and compression control in a shock with a remote reservoir

Come on now, you've got to do some of the work. 

Wooboodoo has been off the radar here for a fair few years. Maybe you should contact wbd by using the personal message feature here. You could contact the manufacturer for specs, also. They might have an archive for reference. Brush up on you're Italian grammar.    It is also fair to say that a replacement shock will have the same, or a very similar eye-to-eye length and spring diameter for clearance purposes.
Good luck on your search. If you're interested in high quality, look a Ted Porter's site for the TFX internal floating piston or reservoir shocks.

[Kaos]

Look for the MG-CB-366-305-TRW-KRR
You can look up the size of the shock in the model reference.
Or just choose this shock if you dont mind having a yss (i personally am having a good time on yss)

[Past-my-Prime]

For a replacement rear shock, I believe you could not do much better than the Wilbers.

But there's likely a strong placebo effect, given the price for these.

They custom make it for you, based upon your weight, riding style, etc.  Fully adjustable rebound / preload, etc, with external reservoir.

My order, for reference, was four years ago:

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Product
Unit price
Quantity
Total
shock absorber type 631 Competition
Edition:
Blackline
Lift / Lowering Kit:
std
Height adjustment:
no
Federvorspannung:
mechanical (X-PA)
Spring color on request:
no

Weight of driver incl. clothes [kg]: 80
Weight of passenger incl. clothes [kg]: 70
Weight of luggage [kg]: 40
Percentage of solo mode without luggage [%]: 70
Percentage of passenger mode [%]: 5
Percentage of luggage mode [%]: 15
Percentage of passenger mode with luggage [%]: 10
Style of driving: standard
Operation purpose: Road

Item #: 631-0004-07
K 75 RT | BMW75
Year of manufacture: 1989
796,64 €
1
796,64 €
 
Total products (excl. tax):
796,64 €
plus 0% tax, amount
0,00 €
Total products (incl. tax):
796,64 €
Grand total:
796,64 €

[Laitch]

For a replacement rear shock, I believe you could not do much better than the Wilbers.
But there's likely a strong placebo effect, given the price for these.

[Swingmanu]

Just to say this I a very cool project and I am about to embark on a similar one.
Any update @wooboodoo?

[Mad_trbo]

Thanks for this information.  I have dug around enough and will work with either YSS or Ohlins for a custom set up.

Once I get my assembly I’ll report back, but it really seems depending on the install of the retroride modification you can end up with different motion / leverage ratios.

This I understand can dramatically impact the way the shock and spring perform.

For a replacement rear shock, I believe you could not do much better than the Wilbers.

But there's likely a strong placebo effect, given the price for these.

They custom make it for you, based upon your weight, riding style, etc.  Fully adjustable rebound / preload, etc, with external reservoir.

My order, for reference, was four years ago:

--------

Product
Unit price
Quantity
Total
shock absorber type 631 Competition
Edition:
Blackline
Lift / Lowering Kit:
std
Height adjustment:
no
Federvorspannung:
mechanical (X-PA)
Spring color on request:
no

Weight of driver incl. clothes [kg]: 80
Weight of passenger incl. clothes [kg]: 70
Weight of luggage [kg]: 40
Percentage of solo mode without luggage [%]: 70
Percentage of passenger mode [%]: 5
Percentage of luggage mode [%]: 15
Percentage of passenger mode with luggage [%]: 10
Style of driving: standard
Operation purpose: Road

Item #: 631-0004-07
K 75 RT | BMW75
Year of manufacture: 1989
796,64 €
1
796,64 €
 
Total products (excl. tax):
796,64 €
plus 0% tax, amount
0,00 €
Total products (incl. tax):
796,64 €
Grand total:
796,64 €

[Mad_trbo]

For perspective on where I am with my build.

[In_Over_My_Head]

This is bad ass. I am in the process of turning my 96 into more of a cafe style. I have always worked on cars but never a bike so this is a part passion project on the weekends, when I have time these days.

[Swingmanu]

For perspective on where I am with my build.

This looks awesome, are those GS wheels? And that custom exhaust is super cool.
You’ve kept the front end, not thinking of swapping for a GSXR or something?
I can see you already have the retro rides setup, what shock are you running now? Not happy with it since you’re in the market for a new one.
I am in the process of starting same build, hence my questions :)

[Mad_trbo]

Appreciate that! Same here, worked on this thing 2 or so years never haven ridden on a motorcycle before January. It’s been a journey full of lessons, one of which involves this suspension.

This is bad ass. I am in the process of turning my 96 into more of a cafe style. I have always worked on cars but never a bike so this is a part passion project on the weekends, when I have time these days.

[Mad_trbo]

I’ll take it, thank you.  It’s a Jonich wheel and after I get some time on the bike, I may decide to change out the front end.  I need to learn more about the impact of rake, trail, etc…

Yeah I have the retro rides conversion and wish I had done the sidewinder instead. I made the mistake of buying an Amazon kit and it has some sort of cheap shock I can’t get the specs on.  It feels awful. I am looking at an ohlins ttx36 ilx.  The only reason I am going that route is I found a guy who builds these and is willing to talk to me and educate me.  It’s surprising how many people simply won’t talk to you about their product and why things like motion ratio are important.

That exhaust is a great example of two guys passionate about the culture.  I couldn’t find a shop who would do the snake or coil feature under the seat.  Fabio Senesi, I found  on Facebook in Italy.  We talked through what I wanted, I took some measurements based on his guidance and built everything up until the Can.  That is a voodoo cafe racer can I had cut and reduced in length.


5e final look wouldn’t have been possible without the fine craftsmanship of Fabio, but we had to get through English being a 2nd language for me to understand what Fabio needed. 

This looks awesome, are those GS wheels? And that custom exhaust is super cool.
You’ve kept the front end, not thinking of swapping for a GSXR or something?
I can see you already have the retro rides setup, what shock are you running now? Not happy with it since you’re in the market for a new one.
I am in the process of starting same build, hence my questions :)

[Kaos]

Jonich wheels are on the pricey side.
I Thought about purchasing them, until i found out you can run a r100gs/mystic front wheel without modifications (depending on current wheel) and r1100gs rear.

For the exhaust (Inquiry) and other fun parts you could check https://customcaferacerparts.com or ask mad exhausts what they can do for you

[Swingmanu]

Awesome and thanks for your reply.
The retrorides available in EU is EU made, doesn’t seem any cheaper than sidewinder. The money is on the shock anyway. I am personally going with the EU made kit and was planning on the YSS shock but this thread is taking me another route. And now you’re mentioning Ohlins.

Your bike looks great, thanks for sharing. From what i hear, GSXR front swap are best cause of the fork length. Not affecting too much geometry. But i also have a lot to dig in.

Manu

I’ll take it, thank you.  It’s a Jonich wheel and after I get some time on the bike, I may decide to change out the front end.  I need to learn more about the impact of rake, trail, etc…

Yeah I have the retro rides conversion and wish I had done the sidewinder instead. I made the mistake of buying an Amazon kit and it has some sort of cheap shock I can’t get the specs on.  It feels awful. I am looking at an ohlins ttx36 ilx.  The only reason I am going that route is I found a guy who builds these and is willing to talk to me and educate me.  It’s surprising how many people simply won’t talk to you about their product and why things like motion ratio are important.

That exhaust is a great example of two guys passionate about the culture.  I couldn’t find a shop who would do the snake or coil feature under the seat.  Fabio Senesi, I found  on Facebook in Italy.  We talked through what I wanted, I took some measurements based on his guidance and built everything up until the Can.  That is a voodoo cafe racer can I had cut and reduced in length.


5e final look wouldn’t have been possible without the fine craftsmanship of Fabio, but we had to get through English being a 2nd language for me to understand what Fabio needed.

[Swingmanu]

I am also looking at these GS wheels. They seem like a basic swap with 4 bolts on them.

Jonich wheels are on the pricey side.
I Thought about purchasing them, until i found out you can run a r100gs/mystic front wheel without modifications (depending on current wheel) and r1100gs rear.

For the exhaust (Inquiry) and other fun parts you could check https://customcaferacerparts.com or ask mad exhausts what they can do for you

[Kaos]

I am also looking at these GS wheels. They seem like a basic swap with 4 bolts on them.

it would. However on the monolever it would result in a small offset.
A paralever swap (like I have) would solve that which is a pretty easy swap. And still a fraction of the cost.
Just something to take into consideration.

[Swingmanu]

Well here’s something else I wasn’t aware of :)

it would. However on the monolever it would result in a small offset.
A paralever swap (like I have) would solve that which is a pretty easy swap. And still a fraction of the cost.
Just something to take into consideration.

[In_Over_My_Head]

I do not even know how many miles I have on my bike (long story), and it needs a lot of love. I really want to adjust the ride height as well. I may be completely wrong, but the center of gravity makes it difficult to really lean into turns on mountain roads. Part of that is me, but I took an RnineT out and it was so easy to throw into the turns. The RnineT was much lower to the ground, and that seems to have made all the difference. I supposedly have good tires on the bike.

Has anyone found a good write-up on changing out the front fork? It sounds like the GSXR is a good swap.

[Kaos]

By adjusting the ride hight, you mean you want to lower it?
Gsxr swap is one of the most common swaps. Looks nice. Not so much when seals start leaking.
Anyway. By how much? Ive done 5 cm, of which 3 ish can be accomplished bij lowering the clamps over the stanchions Another by reducing the oil. Now the latter can cause wobble so i recommend doing it with w10.
No i dont recommend it. But its up to you.
I found that lowering the k (too much) did not improve corners. That came with a wider rear and larger ratio front wheel.
Now my front is lowered by about 2 cm. And my rear on a 420mm spring.

[In_Over_My_Head]

Thanks for sharing your experience. Yeah, I was considering lowering it. Are there issues scraping in turns with the GSXR swap?

My goal is better handling. It sounds like I may want to look into changing the front wheel and rear tire for a larger option. With the lowering you've done did you notice the bike handled better? I get that too much is, well, too much.