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more Hazard / turn signal whack
« on: June 22, 2018, 01:49:03 PM »
I thought I got lucky and "fixed" my turn signal whack. It's back. When I press either turn signal switch, all signal lights come on, when I release, they all go off. When I activate the hazard switch, they all light and blink properly. When the hazards are turned off the left lights [fr & back] blink like they are supposed to if I press the left blinker switch. They turn off properly with the cancel switch. I cleaned the main ground, pulled and cleaned the fuses,took out all bulbs and cleaned contacts,  even did the reverse starter thing. The 5th fuse down [Sonder ausstattung , special system] is MIA, but it was like that when the signals worked properly. I assume on my model ['94 K75s] it is not needed. Other than using hand signals, which at night seem ineffective, what should I do?
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2018, 02:34:28 PM »
Does the horn function as normal together with the turn signal?
Does the clock function as normal together with the turn signal?
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2018, 02:46:50 PM »
Other than using hand signals, which at night seem ineffective . . .
That's what we used in the early '60s and earlier; still use them when bicycling. They are effective at night if the driver behind you has the headlights turned on, knows what they mean and isn't staring into a cellphone looking for convenient takeout nearby.
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2018, 03:06:14 PM »
Does the horn function as normal together with the turn signal?
Does the clock function as normal together with the turn signal?
glad you asked that.
If I hold the horn button on , the signals work as they are designed to. ????? :dunno2:
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2018, 03:12:35 PM »
now they are working.  :clap: The horn switch seems to have something to do with the whack :dunno2:

clock is working and unaffected by this particular whack.

NEW problem: I was running out of ideas and thought I'd check the connector behind the brake light, and as I was reassembling dropped one of the plastic knobbed screws and can't find it. There doesn't seem to be anywhere for it to go. poked all around in there and it disappeared?
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2018, 03:42:48 PM »
You will find it in the last place that you look. Alternatively it will be found associating with all the other little lost widgets, springs, ball bearings, spring clips and socks.  :hehehe If it doesn't reveal itself use a metric wingnut until you source a replacement.
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2018, 03:45:42 PM »
You will find it in the last place that you look. Alternatively it will be found associating with all the other little lost widgets, springs, ball bearings, spring clips and socks.  :hehehe If it doesn't reveal itself use a metric wingnut until you source a replacement.
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Ha, I did find a small allen wrench, and a large rubber grommet and washer while poking around in there. I think the rubber washer and grommet go with the screw.
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2018, 03:53:54 PM »
Check that fuse #7 is OK, w/o corrosion and sits tight in the fuse holder/contacts.
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2018, 03:58:04 PM »
Many years ago while working a long forgotten piece of machinery, a mate dropped a small ball bearing. After searching all over the floor for about thirty minutes we couldn't locate it. In a moment of sheer brilliance ( stupidity) he proceeds to drop another reasoning he can observe where it went and find both. This resulted in two lost ball bearings. Four years later when we relocated and cleaned out my workshop I found them both sitting happily side by side under a bench.  :hehehe
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2018, 11:12:15 PM »
That's what we used in the early '60s and earlier; still use them when bicycling. They are effective at night if the driver behind you has the headlights turned on, knows what they mean and isn't staring into a cellphone looking for convenient takeout nearby.
ha. Why did using the horn cause the blinkers to behave. ? did it scare them?
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2018, 01:52:47 AM »
My '92 K100RS had the whacked out signals a few years ago. I tried the starter in reverse solution, no go. The fix was brought about by pulling the starter, full clean, and replacing the brushes. Signals dewhacked.
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2018, 02:53:02 PM »
My '92 K100RS had the whacked out signals a few years ago. I tried the starter in reverse solution, no go. The fix was brought about by pulling the starter, full clean, and replacing the brushes. Signals dewhacked.
I hope it doesn't come to that. Rode it this morning and all is well.I still don't understand what the horn has to do with it, but I'm going to start using it more.  :dunno2: I even found the missing fastener. After the ride, it was just lounging in the rear compartment.
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2018, 02:59:10 PM »
I hope it doesn't come to that. Rode it this morning and all is well.I still don't understand what the horn has to do with it, but I'm going to start using it more.  :dunno2: I even found the missing fastener. After the ride, it was just lounging in the rear compartment.
I've been out of town and went for a couple hour ride today. the whack is back, but goes away if I blow the horn . comes back, and when I blow the horn it behaves for awhile.
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2018, 03:34:36 PM »
The fix was brought about by pulling the starter, full clean, and replacing the brushes. Signals dewhacked.
I hope it doesn't come to that.
It has come to that.
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2018, 04:20:53 PM »
It has come to that.
thanks for the link, looks doable for me. I may wait for some cooler weather ,and just keep blowing the horn , it's over 90f with high humidity.
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2018, 06:48:56 PM »
I may wait for some cooler weather ,and just keep blowing the horn . . .
There's nothing like road rage to liven up a ride.
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2018, 11:25:44 PM »
as I was reassembling dropped one of the plastic knobbed screws and can't find it. There doesn't seem to be anywhere for it to go. poked all around in there and it disappeared?

decades ago I had a TR-3.  When replacing the front idler arm I discovered a road crud encrusted thermostat housing sitting on the frame rail.  Some poor slob had dropped it, searched fruitlessly and finally broke down and bought another one.  I sure subsequent owners of my vehicles have found wrenches and sockets in obscure spots.  Sort of a play-it-forward lost and found game. 
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2018, 06:40:40 AM »
I was running out of ideas and thought I'd check the connector behind the brake light, and as I was reassembling dropped one of the plastic knobbed screws and can't find it.
Many years ago while working a long forgotten piece of machinery, a mate dropped a small ball bearing. After searching all over the floor for about thirty minutes we couldn't locate it.
decades ago I had a TR-3.  When replacing the front idler arm I discovered a road crud encrusted thermostat housing sitting on the frame rail.  Some poor slob had dropped it, searched fruitlessly . . .
I lost my mind in a wild romance.
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2018, 09:10:58 AM »
You will find it in the last place that you look.

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Who keeps looking after they find what they lost???
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Re: more Hazard / turn signal whack
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2018, 09:47:37 AM »
I lost my mind in a wild romance.

some things you lose and no one else ever finds them
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