Thanks, Motobins pricing is the same as going through Siebenrock in Germany, I'll have to check out shipping costs. Has anyone in this group purchased one of the Italian made plates, just wondering how they rate to the Siebenrock. After what I've seen with the stock unit I don't think I'll be going the stock route especially for the money. Weather is starting to warm up nicely here in Tulsa and my bike is in pieces. Cheers!