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Title: Luggage sizes
Post by: john11668 on April 21, 2016, 11:58:08 AM
My bike came with side tragkorbs but no top box . I was disappointed to find thet the tragkorbs did not have space for a helmet .
So I sought a top box and found one on Fleabay  All very nice and I now have full luggage,  but even that wont accommodate the Helmet either.
Wonder what BMW were thinking about?
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: F14CRAZY on April 21, 2016, 12:03:47 PM
The 35L top case fits my medium HJC full face helmet and my wife's at the same time. I think hers is an XS.

I often keep my helmet with the bike on one of the pegs and use a bicycle cable lock to lock it to the peg plate. Doesnt work well if raining though.
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: Chaos on April 21, 2016, 12:12:05 PM
My previous XXL modular helmets fit in my tragkorb, but my Schuberth won't.  Had to position them just right but they did fit.  Don't care for a huge topbox so I carry my helmet now.
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: K1300S on April 21, 2016, 12:28:35 PM
My bike came with side tragkorbs but no top box . I was disappointed to find thet the tragkorbs did not have space for a helmet .
So I sought a top box and found one on Fleabay  All very nice and I now have full luggage,  but even that wont accommodate the Helmet either.
Wonder what BMW were thinking about?
30 years ago when the cases were designed...helmets were not as big as they are today, if worn at all.  not a BMW engineering problem....
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: johnny on April 21, 2016, 12:53:26 PM
greetings...

i donts ride with my helmet in no luggage box... cause its on my head...

thats what bmw was thinking...

j o
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: john11668 on April 21, 2016, 04:52:19 PM
The 35L top case fits my medium HJC full face helmet and my wife's at the same time. I think hers is an XS.

I often keep my helmet with the bike on one of the pegs and use a bicycle cable lock to lock it to the peg plate. Doesnt work well if raining though.

We do get a bit of rain here F14crazy  especially in my part of UK
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: john11668 on April 21, 2016, 04:55:59 PM
greetings...

i donts ride with my helmet in no luggage box... cause its on my head...

thats what bmw was thinking...

j o

Hell I never thought of that Johnny.
But where do I put it when I park up for an hour or two ?
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: Chaos on April 21, 2016, 05:52:27 PM
Emgo makes a very decent box that hold most helmets, I have one on my Ural and it has held up well.  You'll need some sort of rack to mount the base on.
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: Martin on April 21, 2016, 07:28:04 PM
I can fit my helmet in one of my tragkorbs but not the other they are the Type 3. But I put my helmet closed on my RH mirror and cable lock it to the fork. If you close it, it won't get wet when it rains. In high crime areas you can also attach an alarmed disc lock to the strap buckle.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: TrueAce on April 21, 2016, 07:47:16 PM
On my 1100GS, one is a little larger, and will fit a helmet, even a Shuberth. But I hadn't tried to put those bags on the K100, though I don't see why they wouldn't mount. The K75 bags won't take the Shuberth. I use cable locks, cause the bags are already full of other stuff, and if I'm not hauling stuff, I don't ride with empty bags.So...........inquiring minds want to know, are 1985-1996 tragkorbs ( why do we use a French words for a German bag?), interchangeable for mounting on K75/100/1100? We should ask Laitch, he will know.
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: Laitch on April 21, 2016, 09:09:59 PM
. . . why do we use a French words for a German bag?
Its mellifluence is more attractive than its Teutonic equivalent.
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: TrueAce on April 21, 2016, 09:24:29 PM
OK, Mr. World Traveler, what's wrong with "TRAGKORB"! Kinda rolls off the tongue...........take this TRAGKORB  and ........!
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: Laitch on April 21, 2016, 09:36:19 PM
OK, Mr. World Traveler, what's wrong with "TRAGKORB"! Kinda rolls off the tongue...........take this TRAGKORB  and ........!
Not a thing, Ace, and now that you're using it, it's bound to go viral. I can almost hear it echoing among the mesas and spectacular geologic formations of our great Southwest as they become veiled by the gossamer hydrocarbon clouds spewing from your Ural's pipes.
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: TrueAce on April 21, 2016, 10:52:00 PM
Well, since we have a perfectly proper word for "tragkorbs", I am requesting K Command to ban "tragkorbs" and require the proper term "Tragkorb" from now on!
BTW my FI BMW sidecar badged as a URAL as part of my disguise doesn't smoke at all, unlike the two Harleys here in the campground.
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: Laitch on April 21, 2016, 10:56:46 PM
BTW my FI BMW sidecar badged as a URAL as part of my disguise doesn't smoke at all, unlike the two Harleys here in the campground.
Al Gore will be sending you a medallion, Ace. Drop him a line indicating the nearest general delivery on your itinerary.
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: F14CRAZY on April 21, 2016, 11:20:24 PM
The decal under the seat and I think the manual just call them saddlebags, not side cases, not tragkorbs (which seems to be more of a bicycle term)
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: Laitch on April 21, 2016, 11:27:22 PM
The decal under the seat and I think the manual just call them saddlebags
I think it has been pretty well established by now that they're called "tragkorbs" by the intelligentsia, although there are bound to be pockets of resistance—label manufacturers, for instance.
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: TrueAce on April 21, 2016, 11:53:01 PM
Oh, that's authoritative ,F14, an ENGLISH LANGUAGE LABEL!. Let's just call a Tragkorb a Tragkorb, and be done with the issue. The term "tragkorbs" is actually a British affectation from an attempt to out-snob the French.
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: john11668 on April 22, 2016, 04:53:50 AM
Wow ,
And there was I just wondering wher to put my helmet  :bmwsmile
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: bocutter Ed on April 22, 2016, 10:32:58 AM
tragkorbs > carrying basket
tragkorb > basket
baskets > Körbe
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: Chaos on April 22, 2016, 10:39:42 AM
Wow ,
And there was I just wondering wher to put my helmet  :bmwsmile

And now you know.  Ain't this wonderful?
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: TrueAce on April 22, 2016, 11:10:09 AM
From now on, when you see somebody use that snooty "tragkorbs", just give a BAMBAM-style shout "TRAGKORBS"!
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: TrueAce on April 22, 2016, 11:23:49 AM
Actually, the word intended was "tragkorbs".
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: TrueAce on April 22, 2016, 11:27:10 AM
HA! The High K Command has inserted an automatic conversion of "P-A-N-N-I-E-R" to TRAGKORB! Love it!
Title: Re: Luggage sizes
Post by: F14CRAZY on April 22, 2016, 11:52:14 AM
Maybe I'll just use the term System 3 luggage
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: Chaos on April 22, 2016, 12:37:19 PM
show us your Tragkorbs!
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: bocutter Ed on April 22, 2016, 01:02:12 PM
Think I'll stick with my 70 litre Bwokx (wok in Tragkorb) even though it doesn't fit a hell-mutt ...


Edit: It would seem that Tragkorb also is b o x ...

 :hehehe :hehehe :hehehe 
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: Martin on April 22, 2016, 03:13:48 PM
I wish you a Merry Tragkorb I wish you a Merry Tragkorg. A Merry Tragkorb to one and all.
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: herseyb on April 22, 2016, 03:23:57 PM
the buckle busted off one of mine last summer and I'm thinking about making all new adventure sized tragkorbs.
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: F14CRAZY on April 22, 2016, 04:33:11 PM
like dis?

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0726/1125/products/wicker_bicycle_basket_in_toasted_oat_on_bike-item000211_fdaed279-0d4e-468e-8d59-7b04ad57e3ec_grande.jpeg?v=1441992606)
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: john11668 on April 22, 2016, 06:27:34 PM
Forget it
I have fitted  an  italian container and my helmet goes in that! :neener:
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: TrueAce on April 22, 2016, 08:28:19 PM
Not so fast, John, we aren't finished helping you solve your problem!
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: Laitch on April 22, 2016, 08:55:57 PM
                                                                             UP TRAGKORBS!
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: bocutter Ed on April 22, 2016, 09:39:49 PM
show us your Tragkorbs!
Ok, so now it's a Tragwokkorbs.  :hehehe
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: TrueAce on April 22, 2016, 10:41:25 PM
WOW, Tres magnific'! Dude, you could cater parties with that thing! All you need is to mount two propane tanks! I would classify your rig as BIG JOHNSON TRAGKORB!
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: john11668 on April 23, 2016, 03:46:55 AM
 :clap:
Title: Re: Tragkorb sizes
Post by: bocutter Ed on April 23, 2016, 07:39:12 AM
All you need is to mount two propane tanks!
There's a dual fuel Coleman under the brussel sprouts. Takes tank gas.