MOTOBRICK.COM

MOTOBRICK.COM => Welcome To Motobrick.Com => Topic started by: vwildvr6er on January 12, 2016, 12:21:31 PM

Title: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 12, 2016, 12:21:31 PM
Hey everybody  :wave:

A buddy of mine moved to das Vaterland for the military and practically gave me his 88k mile 1985 K100RS. I understand that it is an FYK, as I have confirmed that it does not have the fuel tank vent tube going to the block.  :2thumbup:

(http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr51/jsabeast145/1985%20BMW%20K100RT/0EAA7249-B9E3-415D-B2B4-A4F68EBCBDCD_zpswvczzz1n.jpg) (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/jsabeast145/media/1985%20BMW%20K100RT/0EAA7249-B9E3-415D-B2B4-A4F68EBCBDCD_zpswvczzz1n.jpg.html)

I am currently in the process of getting it up and running again. It ran last year, but the fuel pump stopped working during the off-season. I got down to business and figured out a few of the issues pretty quickly. Mainly, the pump had gummed up due to the in tank screen being bent and not working properly. However, the pump/sender connector had seen better days too.

(http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr51/jsabeast145/1985%20BMW%20K100RT/86E8FB09-5023-448B-B801-47CF0DC33848_zpsfigu9yps.jpg) (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/jsabeast145/media/1985%20BMW%20K100RT/86E8FB09-5023-448B-B801-47CF0DC33848_zpsfigu9yps.jpg.html)

I snipped the alarm connector last night and used that to replace the original one, and I rebuilt the fuel pump today. I more or less just took it apart to clean, refinish, and lubricate it. Good as new!

I have a new screen on order, so hopefully I can fire the old girl up fairly soon. I am excited for the upcoming riding season!

Now that I have told that story, allow me to finish my self-introduction:
My name is Janssen. I'm a mechanical engineer in the automotive industry in Michigan. I grew up riding dirtbikes on the ORV trails of Michigan's lower peninsula, so I am no stranger to riding... but this is my first road bike so I am still approaching the experience with caution. I don't want to be that overzealous kid that thinks he knows everything and ends up being the first to get injured. I know this is a whole different game. That being said, at least I have some mechanical experience. I was raised into a General Motors family, but I fell in love with German engineering when I was in college at Kettering University. As a result, my technical background is rooted in old watercooled Volkswagens (currently, I have 9...). This is my second BMW though. My first was a bone stock 1987 325is with a 5 speed that had 250k miles but ran like a top. That car was and still is one of the most technologically advanced, smooth driving, comfortable vehicles that I have ever owned.

I have a lot of forum experience from my Volkswagen community involvement, so I didn't have trouble finding your site. But regardless, I am glad I did. It seems like there is a wealth of knowledge here. Needless to say, I am excited to have a brick for my first bike.

Thanks for reading,
Janssen
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Martin on January 12, 2016, 03:01:55 PM
Janssen welcome to the world of the Brick from the land of OZ.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 12, 2016, 05:28:32 PM
Thank you, Martin!
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: kris on January 16, 2016, 09:56:37 PM
Hi Janssen,
Welcome to the Forum. I write to you from your sister city in the CANUSA Games - Hamilton, Ontario. Don't know if you're getting the same weather we are but I've had both bikes out in the last two days. The roads are clear and dry...not even much salt residue. Enjoy your machine. They are quirky and sweet!
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 18, 2016, 08:23:07 AM
Hi Janssen,
Welcome to the Forum. I write to you from your sister city in the CANUSA Games - Hamilton, Ontario. Don't know if you're getting the same weather we are but I've had both bikes out in the last two days. The roads are clear and dry...not even much salt residue. Enjoy your machine. They are quirky and sweet!
Thank you, Kris. We have had pretty cold weather as of late, with a small amount of snowfall. Even if my Brick were roadworthy, I wouldn't be out in this stuff, haha. Good to hear that Ontario is nice enough for you to have the bikes out though!
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on January 18, 2016, 10:20:39 AM
Hi Janssen,
Welcome to the Forum. I write to you from your sister city in the CANUSA Games - Hamilton, Ontario. Don't know if you're getting the same weather we are but I've had both bikes out in the last two days. The roads are clear and dry...not even much salt residue. Enjoy your machine. They are quirky and sweet!
Thank you, Kris. We have had pretty cold weather as of late, with a small amount of snowfall. Even if my Brick were roadworthy, I wouldn't be out in this stuff, haha. Good to hear that Ontario is nice enough for you to have the bikes out though!

Yeah, the Hamilton/Toronto area is the Miami of the Great White North.  I live just across the border and spend most of the winter shivering in 3 feet of snow.  It ain't fair, I tell ya!
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Martin on January 18, 2016, 02:40:34 PM
Never really thought about it, but salting the roads must play havoc with your vehicles. You must have a lot of corrosion problems.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 18, 2016, 02:44:19 PM
Never really thought about it, but salting the roads must play havoc with your vehicles. You must have a lot of corrosion problems.
Regards Martin.
Yeah, we have a little bit of a rust problem. If you ask me, I would rather the gov't spend the salt budget on snow tires for the idiots and let the rest of us competent drivers fend for ourselves. I love driving in the winter.  :curvy-road
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Martin on January 18, 2016, 03:00:02 PM
You can have the cold on your own, I used to work in Bass Strait on the Esso oil platforms, the wind in winter comes off Antarctica. I used tho have to wear about 3-4 layers of clothes, and still freeze at times when the wind came up. I had to cut the fingers out of riggers gloves in order to do my job, and still have relatively functioning hands. I now live in Queensland, and only own 2 light jumpers for winter riding which to me is only 6 weeks long. :clap:
Regards Martin
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 18, 2016, 03:05:42 PM
You can have the cold on your own, I used to work in Bass Strait on the Esso oil platforms, the wind in winter comes off Antarctica. I used tho have to wear about 3-4 layers of clothes, and still freeze at times when the wind came up. I had to cut the fingers out of riggers gloves in order to do my job, and still have relatively functioning hands. I now live in Queensland, and only own 2 light jumpers for winter riding which to me is only 6 weeks long. :clap:
Regards Martin
I don't much care for the cold either. Being out on a rig with winds from Antarctica sounds like a cold version of Hell. No thanks.

Although the Queensland weather does sound appealing, I will put up with my snow and some cold in exchange for the opportunity for skiing and snowboarding in the winter months. I'm an outdoor sports type of guy, and such activities provide for some of the highlights of my years.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Martin on January 18, 2016, 03:57:02 PM
 On a funny note survival times if you fell overboard in winter were 30min. On man overboard recovery drills, with a Brucker powered by a cantankerous 1 cyl diesel, and sort of looks like an orange flying saucer used to take 45 min, not very reassuring. :musicboohoo:
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 18, 2016, 04:25:08 PM
That is quite grim. I hope that didn't happen too often out there... or not at all.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Martin on January 18, 2016, 05:44:45 PM
One Rigger in summer accidently on purpose fell in, it was dead calm recovered from sea deck. He was an idiot, Great Whites prowl the platforms because of the seals that make their home on the cross braces. However I personally never saw one. Although a mate of mine refused to work on sea deck, due to one swimming by. Out there for ten years that was enough, met a lot of Drillers from US all from Louisiana nice guys.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: billday on January 18, 2016, 07:46:39 PM
Didn't know BMW made cars.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on January 18, 2016, 09:11:51 PM
Didn't know BMW made cars.

Cars???   Is that something new?    What will they think of next?
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Martin on January 18, 2016, 10:29:02 PM
Gryph I knew they used to make Aircraft Engines, but I think someone is pulling your leg. BMW would never stoop low enough and make a car.
Get real Martin.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Brad-Man on January 18, 2016, 11:28:28 PM
Welcome to the Kult.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 19, 2016, 09:47:32 AM
Hahaha, you guys are a hoot.  :hehehe

Thank you, Brad-Man
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: bocutter Ed on January 19, 2016, 11:02:45 AM
I used tho have to wear about 3-4 layers of clothes ...

I've had the scoot (no not the brick) out at -25C (-13F). Nothing more than 2 or 3 km tho. Luckily the shop is only 1 km around the corner. Six layers to ride, one of which are these http://www.stanfields.com/men/underwear/one-piece-combinations/two-layer-wool-blend-combination.html (http://www.stanfields.com/men/underwear/one-piece-combinations/two-layer-wool-blend-combination.html)
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: 84K100RT on January 22, 2016, 02:38:36 PM
Didn't know BMW made cars.

Cars???   Is that something new?    What will they think of next?
Next you know they will be making bicycles.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: F14CRAZY on January 22, 2016, 04:39:50 PM
Didn't know BMW made cars.

Cars???   Is that something new?    What will they think of next?
Next you know they will be making bicycles.

http://www.shopbmwusa.com/LIFESTYLE/ACCESSORIES---GIFTS/BICYCLES/ (http://www.shopbmwusa.com/LIFESTYLE/ACCESSORIES---GIFTS/BICYCLES/)

I dunno if they mke them but they do sell them
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: 84K100RT on January 24, 2016, 09:41:39 AM
Ha I did know they make bicycles, bit underpowered though.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: johnny on January 24, 2016, 09:50:41 AM
look what grand rapids bmw gotts... i gotts one somewheres in the basement... used to getts some laughs... (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-BMW-Motorcycles-of-Grand-Rapids-I-Didnt-Know-BMW-Made-Cars-T-Shirt/361311464368?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D34492%26meid%3Dad374bf873e94106afed38c1066b9631%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D201336439571)
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Martin on January 24, 2016, 10:26:56 AM
That is one great T Shirt, and I still don't believe they make cars. It's just propaganda started by the Japanese. Next thing they will be saying is Honda make cars.:nono
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: 84K100RT on January 24, 2016, 10:29:40 AM
Next up you will have Yamaha making pianos and MV Agusta making helicopters.

Bound to be someone tell us now that Lamborghini make tractors and not Harley D as we thought all along.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on January 24, 2016, 10:34:54 AM
Think I have to get one of those shirts.   Lot of members at the yacht club where I work have Bimmers. 

Shame you can't get one with a brick on it.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: F14CRAZY on January 24, 2016, 02:29:27 PM
Think I have to get one of those shirts.   Lot of members at the yacht club where I work have Bimmers. 

Shame you can't get one with a brick on it.

least it isn't an airhead, which is all that BMW shirts seem to have on them.

I've almost bought that shirt but dealer shirts are never cheap...I mean I'm willing to pay something but I'm walking around with their name on me
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on January 25, 2016, 09:28:44 AM
I hear ya.  I abhor anything with a logo on it.  Why pay extra to advertise for someone.

I had to get that shirt though, just to tweak a couple of guys I know.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 25, 2016, 09:33:04 AM
I hear ya.  I abhor anything with a logo on it.  Why pay extra to advertise for someone.

I had to get that shirt though, just to tweak a couple of guys I know.
I can agree with that. I have a good number of VW related shirts, but I tend to buy mine from independent sellers at car shows. The custom graphic tees are more fun anyway.

Side note:
Hey F14, do you know of any MI based Brick gatherings? We obviously share a similar locale.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: kris on January 25, 2016, 12:05:43 PM
If you Michigan guys are looking to meet maybe we could arrange for the Toronto/Hamilton & Buffalo guys to meet in Sarnia/ Port Huron or somewhere a little further up the Lake Huron coast (Cdn side) in the fair weather? You are roughly 65 miles from the border so that's a pretty easy hop. Obviously a bit more of a trek for us to get to you but it's certainly a possibility in late Spring/ Summer. It's beautiful, quiet country down that way....
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 25, 2016, 12:30:22 PM
If you Michigan guys are looking to meet maybe we could arrange for the Toronto/Hamilton & Buffalo guys to meet in Sarnia/ Port Huron or somewhere a little further up the Lake Huron coast (Cdn side) in the fair weather? You are roughly 65 miles from the border so that's a pretty easy hop. Obviously a bit more of a trek for us to get to you but it's certainly a possibility in late Spring/ Summer. It's beautiful, quiet country down that way....
I like this idea. Sarnia isn't far from me at all.

Assuming that all goes well with my build, and the bike is comfortable enough to put some miles on, I am willing to travel wherever. I love taking trips in the car, so I'm sure I'll enjoy them on the Brick just as well.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on January 25, 2016, 01:10:30 PM
The brick is even better as you will soon learn.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 25, 2016, 01:16:28 PM
The brick is even better as you will soon learn.
I imagine so. My only concern is that the PO offed the original seat because it had a rip in it... (as if I, who works in the automotive industry, don't know anyone that could fix it). So now I have this goofy Honderp seat fitted to it and held on with U-bolts  :dunno

I spoke with a professional seat upholsterer, who just so happens to have done a good number of bikes, and he suggested that I craft my own seat. From scratch. I've never worked with fiberglass before, but I've also never been one to say no to an opportunity to learn a new skill.  :help:
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Martin on January 25, 2016, 02:11:49 PM
Seats come up all the time on Ebay and on this forum. Unless you really want to craft your own, I would put it out on the forum that you need a seat. I presume that you probably don't have the mounting hardware as well. As well as OEM  which include a couple of style eg: Comfort, Std, you have a choice of after market custom, Corbin, Sargeant etc. And you have heaps of variations the customs it can be a bit of a nightmare trying to find one that suits. I bought a spare original seat and had it shaved, refoamed and recovered to original colour, which was great until I lost a heap of weight, ( mainly of my bum ). So I now run a gel pad on long trips. If your seat is not perfect you can have it rebuilt, run a gel pad or an air pad, and lots of these pads can be fitted internally.
Regards Martin. :riding:
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 25, 2016, 02:58:40 PM
Seats come up all the time on Ebay and on this forum. Unless you really want to craft your own, I would put it out on the forum that you need a seat. I presume that you probably don't have the mounting hardware as well. As well as OEM  which include a couple of style eg: Comfort, Std, you have a choice of after market custom, Corbin, Sargeant etc. And you have heaps of variations the customs it can be a bit of a nightmare trying to find one that suits. I bought a spare original seat and had it shaved, refoamed and recovered to original colour, which was great until I lost a heap of weight, ( mainly of my bum ). So I now run a gel pad on long trips. If your seat is not perfect you can have it rebuilt, run a gel pad or an air pad, and lots of these pads can be fitted internally.
Regards Martin. :riding:
Thanks for the info, Martin. I appreciate that. I have looked for seats, and found a few Corbins. My only qualm is that they are all asking nearly as much for the seats as I paid for the Brick!  :yow

I would love to get my hands on an original 85 seat, or at least one that fits an 85, so I could mimic the mounting points and build a custom seat. That way I could have two easily interchangeable seats... But I'm not about to pay $400 for an OEM seat...  :falldown: Alas, the search will continue.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 25, 2016, 03:06:10 PM
Well, I jumped over to the classifieds and it looks like another member here is parting out the cosmetic bits from his 85 K100LT. Is the seat the same as for the RS? As in, will it fit? If so, he has two seats and I would probably be interested in getting my hands on one or both of them. :eek:
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Martin on January 25, 2016, 03:14:30 PM
If you look in the child board on this forum there is a whole section on seats, in that thread there is an explanation on what fits what. In saying that modification is always a possibility. The early seat with the built in grab handle when it comes up on Ebay in OZ is normally cheap, not as popular I guess.
Regards Martin
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Martin on January 25, 2016, 04:05:28 PM
Janssen try to get the hinges with any purchase, they can be made but it is easier if you can get them with the seat. I also noticed that you are missing the rear part of your frame and the ducktail, just wondering what your plans are in that regard.l
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 25, 2016, 04:47:47 PM
Janssen try to get the hinges with any purchase, they can be made but it is easier if you can get them with the seat. I also noticed that you are missing the rear part of your frame and the ducktail, just wondering what your plans are in that regard.l
Regards Martin.
Martin,

Thank you for all of the guidance. It took me a minute to find the child boards, but I found exactly what you were referring to. Very helpful! I will make sure I ask about the hinges when I go to purchase a seat. Regarding the rear section of the frame, I do possess the piece that was removed.

My current thought is to get a section of tube which has an OD that fits the ID of the original frame, cut a piece and weld it into the frame loop on each side, fit it into the intact bike frame, and drill through all 4 walls so that I could insert a pin or something of that nature. This way, if I design a short seat for lone rides, I can utilize a shorter frame and use the full frame for when I have a touring seat on there.

My end goal is to have the ability to interchange multiple seat/tail sections easily, while maintaining full functionality and rigidity of the factory setup. BMW has no shortage of capable engineers. I'm sure they made it the way they did for a reason, so I am not too interested in compromising their work.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: 84K100RT on January 25, 2016, 06:11:13 PM
Seat and rear ducktail changed in 85.

I have an 84 K100RT and 92 K100LT and they are quite different at the rear end. I have Krauser K2 tragkorbs and the set up is quite different where they bolt to the rear of the frame inside the ducktail. I haven't stripped them to see it the metalwork is different. Earlier one has the handles in the seat but they are just screwed on, to metal base. The later base is plastic/fibreglass.

If you go for the later option the 'Comfort' seat is a good on as the pillion is particularly comfortable but UI don't think you get this for the earlier version. The leather of the Corbin is too hard in my book.

The earlier version has the bolt down gas tank [single bolt], later one sits down and has 2 clips.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: mw074 on January 26, 2016, 02:40:01 PM
I would be up for a meet in Sarnia also. F14, we could meet and head that way together.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: F14CRAZY on January 26, 2016, 03:22:50 PM
I would be up for a meet in Sarnia also. F14, we could meet and head that way together.

I'm down
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: jllphan on January 27, 2016, 02:41:11 PM
Hey Janssen, welcome!  I too am a newb to Beemers and this site, but am enjoying both immensely so far.  I too have a manual 1987 325is (but it's far from stock) --sounds like you and i have a lot in common.  I own/have owned a number of BMW four wheelers, but this brick is my first BMW 2wheeler. 

I'd love to see more of how your seat is mounted and what's been done to the frame.  I'm not a fan of hacking up what engineers spent so much time developing, but I am contemplating shortening the frame and building a seat pan/saddle that will still work w/ the factory trunk. 
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on January 27, 2016, 06:47:22 PM
Hey jllphan, welcome to you as well. Highly modified in what ways? I miss my 325is sometimes. It was such a great vehicle.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: jllphan on February 04, 2016, 12:16:58 PM
Hey jllphan, welcome to you as well. Highly modified in what ways? I miss my 325is sometimes. It was such a great vehicle.

Thanks!  Not to lead anyone away from this site, but you can see some of what I've done here in my less than perfect build journal:
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=329375 (http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=329375)
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: Laitch on February 04, 2016, 12:31:15 PM
Not to lead anyone away from this site, but you can see some of what I've done here in my less than perfect build journal:
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=329375 (http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=329375)
What else would it be if not leading someone from this site, jllphan? :hehehe Anyway—for balance—back in the early seventies, I convinced my lover to trade her BMW 2002 for a new Jeepster. Hah!
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on February 04, 2016, 06:42:42 PM

Hey jllphan, welcome to you as well. Highly modified in what ways? I miss my 325is sometimes. It was such a great vehicle.

Thanks!  Not to lead anyone away from this site, but you can see some of what I've done here in my less than perfect build journal:
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=329375 (http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=329375)
looks great!!
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on February 17, 2016, 04:51:05 PM
SHE LIVES :clap: :2thumbup:
Video:
(http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr51/jsabeast145/1985%20BMW%20K100RT/th_K100%20First%20Start_zpsf5loscjs.mp4) (http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr51/jsabeast145/1985%20BMW%20K100RT/K100%20First%20Start_zpsf5loscjs.mp4)
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on February 17, 2016, 05:13:44 PM
In other news, I found a screaming deal for a 5 spoke rear wheel from an R1150R.
(http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr51/jsabeast145/1985%20BMW%20K100RT/r1150r%20wheel_zpsklgjh5ro.jpg) (http://s469.photobucket.com/user/jsabeast145/media/1985%20BMW%20K100RT/r1150r%20wheel_zpsklgjh5ro.jpg.html)

I will admit that picking this up on FLeAbay was an impulse buy. Not only that, but for a moment after I received it I thought that since it utilizes a wheel mounted brake rotor it wouldn't work at all... But alas my research has proven that it is indeed possible. Here it has been done:
http://www.k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11350&sid=2e8b236265038533378a0d813cc63ab1
The poster AUSBRICK says that they used an R1200GS rear brake caliper in order to accommodate the wheel mounted disc. SCORE. Very useful information to have stumbled upon.
Title: Re: New Rider, Old Brick
Post by: vwildvr6er on March 01, 2016, 08:36:21 PM
So... Michigan weather... I rode the bike twice in the last two weeks. We've also had two separate occurrences of 12 inches of snowfall in that time period.

Currently, the bike is snowed in, but she'll probably be back out next week when it warms up to 60*F. Did I mention that she rides like a dream? Because she does.