BMW OEM pricing crosses the line from absurd to no f**king way dude!

[Martin]

Mid to late 80's Rover SD1 headlight was $1500.00au. It had a hole from a rock, and  was fixed by a windscreen repair company for $10.00.
Regards Martin.  :dunno

[Motorhobo]

It is a symptom of my mechanical nerdishness that I actually enjoyed looking at all the different types of washers available.  I must get out more....

So based on the pic from MaxBMW it appears to be these:

https://www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Steel-External-Tooth-WP136278/_/N-1z0o4o3/Ntt-External+Tooth%2C+Closed+Perimeter?sst=subset&s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/25DN34_AS01?$smthumb$

I'm thinking about ordering some, not sure whether they're carbon or regular steel -- definitely not stainless.

[beemrdon]

About a hundred bucks  to change out the 2 front wheel bearings for my K1100 from BMW :yow .
Thats just for the 2 bearings units

[lysy40]

Front wheel bearings for k1100, r1100
6204 2rs
3205 2rs

[beemrdon]

Thanks lysy40
Awesome prices and for SKF bearing units. This info should be placed somewhere that others can find it easily.
BTW, google search the numbers above...

[Motorhobo]

Just maybe some conjecture to close out this thread -- I think what is going on is that BMW Motorrad wants out of the business of stocking and supplying OEM parts to end users and thus is setting prices so high that people will just stop coming to them and will go to the aftermarket suppliers. People like Motobins in the UK and Till in DE are selling OEM-quality parts at exactly the same price or less than BMW was selling them for BEFORE the big 2017 price increase. BMW has no interest in running a supply chain for dinky small-change items when eBay, Amazon and the online stores sell them for less and have zero overhead. BMW Motorrad makes its money on plug-and-play component parts for newer hi-tech motorcycles that don't have 30 years worth of cheapskates reverse-engineering their shit trying to save $$.


So my point is that almost anything you can get from BMW Motorcycles USA you can get from Motobins, BB, or Till. The Classic K community in Germany is dedicated and committed to keeping these great motorcycles on the road, and is coming up with new replacement parts all the time. BMW wants us all to go away and get what we need somewhere else -- and I'm only happy to comply! In short -- BMW is doing us a favor by kicking us out to the curb -- thanks BMW! I'll never bad-mouth you again  :clap: :riding:

[The Mighty Gryphon]

You could very well be right, Motorhobo.  A couple years ago I came across an article or something(could have been a Chris Harris Rant) that basically said that all BMW wanted to do was sell grossly complicated, short lifespan motorcycles to high earning mid-life crisis victims who would buy the bike, have the dealer service it a couple times for huge money, and then take it in the ass on a trade for the next new model. 

The last thing this new business model needs is some fool with a thirty year old machine that won't die taking up the parts dept. guy's time ordering odd bits from the factory.  If you aren't a successful executive or trial lawyer who can afford to throw away $15K in depreciation/service every couple years you sure as hell aren't their target demographic.

I wish I lived in Germany and/or speak German.  It looks like there are some nice opportunities opening up in the spares manufacturing business.

[Vespa no more]

Hand up in the back row...


Where can I get cheap(er) engine rubber mounts? 84 K100RT motor is out and on bench. Should I replace the 32 years old mounts? If so, where from? Motobins is out


Regards

Guy

[Motorhobo]

Email these guys and ask -- I didn't see it in the catalog but they have stuff not listed.


http://www.jt-c.com/index.php

[Vespa no more]

Thanks for that.


Some eye-watering prices on some things (NOS throttle bodies 620 euros)


Some cheaper stuff (fuel pump pre filters)


and a tonnage of fuel injectors.


Will email them when I find the contact address


Guy

[beemrdon]

K1100 LT...$91.oo for mirror glass....New one works well.

[BlitzenGruv]

Don't the Taiwanese and Indians copy these parts? Finding OEM parts for old British stuff is darn near impossible, but somebody makes them.
Still waiting for a back-ordered turn signal lens. Nobody has set up a plastic mold to copy these?!?
I'm not totally opposed to paying the price, IF they actually still keep the part in stock.

[Motorhobo]

Don't the Taiwanese and Indians copy these parts? Finding OEM parts for old British stuff is darn near impossible, but somebody makes them.
Still waiting for a back-ordered turn signal lens. Nobody has set up a plastic mold to copy these?!?
I'm not totally opposed to paying the price, IF they actually still keep the part in stock.

No, not yet but after literally years of bellyaching about the unavailability of this particular part there seems to be some movement in the Fatherland -- apparently someone finally got a quote from an Asian producer on 100 pieces of that lens. They're talking about 40 euros apiece which is about twice the cost of the original unavailable part but considering...probably not a bad deal.


You can follow the thread on the FLying Brick site here -- assuming Google Translate gives better than gibberish for results.


http://www.flyingbrick.de/index.php?thread/39674-blinkerglas-links-f%C3%BCr-k-100-rs/&pageNo=4


I'd be interested to know how many prices could be sold here in the US. Will post a separate thread about that on the Parts WTB section.

[jj4hm]

My bike is my main form of transportation from April thru October, so I was in a bind when I needed new front brake pads this week.  Usually I plan ahead and have consumables like that on hand, but not this time. The dealer gave me a price break since they goofed up what I needed but I still ended up paying about $80.00 per caliper.  That's better than the $101.00 they list for normally, but it's twice what I would have paid if I ordered from Beemer Boneyard or somewhere else.  Even the parts guy apologized before he told me the price.  :dunno

[Chaos]

I just paid $40 for brake pads on my Ural, about twice what I could order them for.  But was happy to support the dealer, a small but fantastic organization. And it was during their annual open house where the feed all us uralites and give us door prizes. I have never and suspect I never will feel that generous towards a BMW dealer

[The Mighty Gryphon]

jj4hm, this is going to totally ruin your day:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1989-1992-BMW-K100RS-16-valve-Kevlar-Carbon-Front-Rear-Brake-Pads-/161709597631?hash=item25a6a4a3bf:g:~fAAAOSwhcJWHvb6&vxp=mtr

I have had a set on my '92 K100RS for the past 10,000 miles and have had zero issues or complaints.  Braking is strong and sensitive with no squealing and they're easy on the rotors.   Still about half of the pad left, but for less than $15 I can afford to replace them this winter during my off season maintenance.

[jj4hm]

Yeah, I know I paid a lot but I had no time to wait.  My wife had to take our car the next day, which meant I had no way to get to work.  I'm still kicking myself for not having ordered a replacement set earlier at a better price.  It's pretty sad when the BMW parts guy is embarrassed by the price.

[The Mighty Gryphon]

I feel for you.  I am so glad there is no dealer convenient to me so that I'm forced to find other sources.

[Motorhobo]

It's pretty sad when the BMW parts guy is embarrassed by the price.

The reason the OEM ones from the Vaterland are so expensive is that when they get worn to 10% instead of just squealing they yell "Scheisse!".


I ordered I think 3 sets of pads the motobrick-recommended eBay retailer not knowing they sell them by the front + rear pair, plus they doubled my order by accident so now I about 40 pounds worth of pads lying around...I think I paid about $40.

[The Mighty Gryphon]

Motorhobo, Sounds like you cornered the market!

[rbm]

One of my frame mounting bolts sheared off so I priced out Ebay used versus BMW new.  BMW wanted CA$10.70 plus HST for a single M10x45 bolt!  The Ebay will sell me a complete set of used mounting bolts for that same price but then I get killed on postage from the USA.  Can't win.

[subforry]

Just priced front wheel for a K1100RS, $1200 for sliver.  If you can live with gold then it is only $500.  Do the gold ones go a K1?

I have seen Mercedes OEM parts price increase as the stock depletes.  Since Mercedes and BMW know (mostly) where every part is, they know the number remaining and how many sell in the give time frame.  I expect there is an algorithm that decides how much to raise the price and determine if a new run of parts is worth the cost.

[Martin]

In OZ BMW have raised price gouging to an art form. I've just ordered a muffler mount for my K75s from Motobins for $40.00 including freight, a quite reasonable price. I believe the same part in the US is similarly priced. I rang Brisbane's biggest dealer and was quoted $125.00 plus a 4-6 week wait from Germany. After seeing US and UK prices I thought they might of stuffed up the prices. So I decided to ring a north coast OEM dealer and quote part numbers so there would be no mistakes. Part numbers have been superseded so I quoted the item number from the BMW parts fiche and made sure we both had the same part. Their quote $140.00 and 4-6 weeks from Germany. So that makes them over $100.00 dearer I know they have to make a living, but really I think they have overstepped the mark. I didn't even try the local non OEM wrecker as once I saw the OEM prices I knew he would be dearer than new from Motobins.
Regards a stunned Martin.

[Motorhobo]

Well, I think it's pretty clear that their business model doesn't support being the parts pipeline for ancient motorcycles. That's what the aftermarket and used pipeline is for. Can't really blame them. Everything has a life-cycle and for BWM the classic K-Bike life-cycle is over. I haven't been to the dealer in years.

[Martin]

Twenty years ago when I got my Brick we were still paying heaps for our parts compared to the US and UK, up to four times as much. You guys have a lot more choices, only one non OEM parts supplier wrecker in QLD. And I've just heard he could be closing. If we needed parts fast not many options. UK and the US becoming our only options, but still faster than OEM ex Germany, and a lot cheaper.
Regards Martin.