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Offline TrueAce

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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #50 on: September 02, 2016, 05:52:05 PM »
Stick to the thread topic, bikesnbones, this isn't a "Yes,But" forum.
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Offline bikesnbones

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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2016, 05:59:11 PM »
Stick to the thread topic, bikesnbones, this isn't a "Yes,But" forum.

But it was you who bought racing into the discussion, so you are in no position to point the finger and accuse anyone of going off topic.
You are very skilled at avoiding questions though.
Are you a politician by any chance.
 :hehehe
As regards the question, if you ask if it's worth repairing or replacing your defective abs, the question you are actually asking is, if abs is needed or not.

What other reason would there be to ask.

Let's see if you can answer that simple question without the BS this time
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Offline TrueAce

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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2016, 06:30:41 PM »
Avoiding questions??? Let's make this simple.......you own a K-Bike you payed $2500 for which just had ABS failure. The ABS replacement parts cost $1900....hmmmm fix it or take it off? Got the funds? Maybe keep riding?
The answer is do what you want as you see it......I would not spend the money.
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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2016, 06:35:30 PM »
Mr. bikesnbones doesn't just believe that ABS is relevant, he worships it.  Without it, the bike is a death sentence.

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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2016, 08:56:35 PM »
Avoiding questions??? Let's make this simple.......you own a K-Bike you payed $2500 for which just had ABS failure. The ABS replacement parts cost $1900....hmmmm fix it or take it off? Got the funds? Maybe keep riding?
The answer is do what you want as you see it......I would not spend the money.

I'll make it simpler.
The K bikes sold in big numbers, and for a relatively long period.
What that means is that used spares are plentiful.
I can go to Motorworks or James Sherlock, and buy replacement or reconditioned parts for a fraction of the cost of new, and they'll come with a warranty.
In fact I did exactly that with a previously owned R1200S, and it came to just over £350 sterling for the pump, with me doing the work admittedly.
This one for example, comes with a 15 day guarantee.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1996-BMW-K1100-RS-RT-K1100RS-ABS-PUMP-AND-MODULE-ASSEMBLY-/361622058110?hash=item54325ab47e:g:UVQAAOSw-KFXdDtG

Mr. bikesnbones doesn't just believe that ABS is relevant, he worships it.  Without it, the bike is a death sentence.

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I think abs is a good thing yes, but could you show me exactly where I said or implied that any bike is a death sentence without it.
Perhaps you just make it up.
Not the sharpest tool in the box are you.




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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2016, 09:14:30 PM »
Not the sharpest tool in the box are you.
If a hammer weren't the sharpest tool in the tool box, that wouldn't make it a bad hammer, would it?
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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #56 on: September 02, 2016, 09:15:05 PM »
Let's get real simple..............cost-benefit..........you don't spend money if it is more than the value......you junk it!
You are arguing the wrong question....ABS accessory value. What you have failed to comprehend is that nobody but you give a shit about arguing about ABS. That's not the point.........if at some point you can't repair, modify, adapt, you junk it or part it. As the famous political advisor, James Carville, stated:" Its the economics, stupid"
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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2016, 05:22:42 AM »
What you have failed to comprehend is that nobody but you give a shit about arguing about ABS.

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And yet here you are, doing just that


Let's get real simple..............cost-benefit..........you don't spend money if it is more than the value......you junk it!.

Did you actually read my post.
Maybe you go crying off to the BMW spares counter when something goes wrong, but anyone with any sense knows that there are a myriad of used spares specialists who will supply quality, and sometime reconditioned parts for a fraction of the cost of new.
I speak from experience.
I had a beautiful K1100RS before my LT.
The engine went bang.
Cylinder 2 overheated, totalled the piston and knackered the bore.
According to your logic, I should have thrown the bike away, but I didn't.
I found a replacement engine, and all was well again.
I did all that for well under the cost of buying another RS in similar condition.
Is it viable to fix an ABS system.
Well for under 100 bucks (see earlier link), and a few hours in the garage, I would say it's definitely worth giving it a go, rather than just give up, like you clearly do.
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Offline beemerphile

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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2016, 06:25:57 AM »
Is there an "ignore" feature on this board?  I have a pressing need for one, but being not the sharpest tool in the drawer I can't locate it.  I thought this forum was pretty free of dick-wavers, but one this way cometh.
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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #59 on: September 03, 2016, 08:37:40 AM »
Is there an "ignore" feature on this board?  I have a pressing need for one, but being not the sharpest tool in the drawer I can't locate it.  I thought this forum was pretty free of dick-wavers, but one this way cometh.

Erm
Is someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read my posts.
Do you really need a button to ignore ?
Wow.
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Oh, and it seems my opinions are not unique

ABS is always worth fixing -- my $0.02...

Well said.
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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2016, 09:57:17 AM »
Here's the summary.
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Offline TrueAce

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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #61 on: September 03, 2016, 10:35:42 AM »
That's clever, Laitch! How do you find this stuff?
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Re: Is it worth fixing the ABS?
« Reply #62 on: September 03, 2016, 04:03:29 PM »
Here's the summary.

All I'm suggesting is that it might be worth reinstating the abs using parts from a reputable source.
I can't understand why one or two people resent that suggestion so much.
This can be done at a fraction of the cost of new.
I posted a link to a complete abs pump unit for under 100 bucks.
That said, in answer to the OP.
Nine times out of ten, abs faults can be traced back to faulty sensor(s) and even the battery.
If you can't do it yourself, it would be worth dropping into your local BMW dealers who can read the fault codes.
There will be a charge, but it's usually nominal.
It's silly to write it off before you have carried out this simple test.
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