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steved

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paint
« on: August 04, 2012, 02:47:49 PM »
I need to paint two side panels on 87 K75c, color 618
where is a place to buy spray can of this color. I don't
want to spend mucho.....Thanks, Steve

Offline argent brick

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Re: paint
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2012, 04:19:01 PM »
You should be able to have that mixed and canned by a paint supplier in your area.
Lynn

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1976 R60/6 RIP

Offline WayneDW

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Re: paint
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2012, 09:15:04 PM »
these guys should have it too:
http://www.rsbikepaint.com
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Re: paint
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2012, 09:54:24 AM »
The best thing to do is find someone who uses the PPG paint matching computer.(Any reputable shop should be able to do this.)  Take one of the tail cowl handles to them and they'll be able to match the paint exactly.
Once I had a Collie pup. Dug a hole and covered him up. Now I sit there by the hour. Waiting for a Collie-flower.
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paint
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2012, 01:59:52 PM »
Find out who are the paint jobbers for the body shops in your area - one of them might have the capability to get you OEM colors in a spray can - it might run you about $20/can.
If you know what you are doing, this is a very cost effective alternative to having a body shop paint your goodies.

PPG may not have all the color codes/formulas for older vehicles - especially motos.
OEM supplier for most Euro vehicles is BASF/Glasurit......and it ain't cheap.

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Re: paint
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2012, 02:10:25 PM »
Find out who are the paint jobbers for the body shops in your area - one of them might have the capability to get you OEM colors in a spray can - it might run you about $20/can.
If you know what you are doing, this is a very cost effective alternative to having a body shop paint your goodies.

PPG may not have all the color codes/formulas for older vehicles - especially motos.
OEM supplier for most Euro vehicles is BASF/Glasurit......and it ain't cheap.

The PPG computer can match anything.  That's why I recommended tanking a tail cowl handle in.  the matched paint on the tank of my K100RS exactly matched the OEM painted side cover - even to the miniscule green and purple flecks in the paint.

Once I had a Collie pup. Dug a hole and covered him up. Now I sit there by the hour. Waiting for a Collie-flower.
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Motorandy123

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Re: paint
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2012, 04:40:33 PM »
I heard you can send them to this guy and he'll do a great job and resonable;

http://www.vintage-vendor.com/index.html

Not sure what resonable is? I'd like to repaint mine as there is some missing paint around
the gas cap. A cheap paint job around here is $600 (one color!). It would cost too much to
buy a gun and supplies so I though of 2 part paint cans. Most spray can paint won't hold up.
Gas will eat them quick! The auto paints are catalyzed just before spraying. Some places
will make 2 part spray paint cans. You pull a pin the shake and paint. The spray can cannot
be used after 24 hours (as it's all catalyzed)

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Re: paint
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2012, 05:12:09 PM »
Now you guys have me thanking about the paint on my brick. It is in great shape except for two small marks on the tank. Looks like marks from a belt buckle. Can you still get the small bottles of touch up paint from BMW?
Lynn

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1978 Yamaha xs750(P.O.S.)
1976 R60/6 RIP

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Re: paint
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2012, 05:37:19 PM »
I heard you can send them to this guy and he'll do a great job and resonable;

http://www.vintage-vendor.com/index.html


I'm going to try to visit this guy when I'm in VT next week, if I make it I'll report back my findings...
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Rick G

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Re: paint
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2012, 09:28:04 PM »
Find out who are the paint jobbers for the body shops in your area - one of them might have the capability to get you OEM colors in a spray can - it might run you about $20/can.
If you know what you are doing, this is a very cost effective alternative to having a body shop paint your goodies.

PPG may not have all the color codes/formulas for older vehicles - especially motos.
OEM supplier for most Euro vehicles is BASF/Glasurit......and it ain't cheap.

The PPG computer can match anything.  That's why I recommended tanking a tail cowl handle in.  the matched paint on the tank of my K100RS exactly matched the OEM painted side cover - even to the miniscule green and purple flecks in the paint.



I have had PPG match quite a few colors for me and they have always been sopt on.

I took a side cover in and they put it in the computer thing and said it was a BMW color for bikes and year and model and also on a car in a different year under another name.

Turkus

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moto paint
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2012, 02:36:23 AM »
I guess I should have been a little more clear and descriptive in my first post.

First: I have nothing against PPG paint systems, most of the collsion repair facilities I've worked at over the last 10+ years have been shooting PPG with excellent results. PPG is an excellent alternative to BASF/Glasurit when considering materials costs.

HOWEVER...........

In certain parts of these United States there has been a mandate from the EPA to convert to the new waterborne toners w/ solvent based clearcoats. Areas of high density population and poor air quality have been the "test-beds" for lots of EPA experiments for the last 20 years and, when they get it right, the conversion will be nationwide.
Most, if not all, of Kommyfornya and about a dozen other states are now required to shoot waterborne and nothing else. When I was in Seattle a year and a half ago the conversion was still "optional" but the writing was on the wall to change over pretty darn soon.
That being said, "most" vehicle paint manufacturers that are currently producing the waterborne systems only have formulas for colors going back about 10 years. The high demand colors for "special interest" vehicles are slowly filling in their databases but don't expect a complete compendium of codes and formulas in our lifetime; especially for 20+ year old motos.

If you are lucky enough to be living in a "solvent" state and not a "waterborne" state you stand a pretty good chance of getting a good color match from a local paint jobber. If you live in a "waterborne" state your only hope is to find a shop with a talented painter with a good eye and, even then, the match will be "close enough".
If any of you are woodworkers/carpenters you have already run into this problem with some stains. A friend of mine down here in SoCA couldn't get his favorite stains anymore and had to have his daughter buy it for him near her home in Albuquerque, New Mexico and ship it to him in a plain brown wrapper......

Welcome to "the Green Movement".....

Rick G

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Re: paint
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2012, 03:42:32 AM »
Thanks for that Turkus I now see what you mean.
There has been some mumbleings here but the Gubbermint isn't game to do anything contraversial as it is clinging to power by a thread. Not such a bad thing actually.

Motorandy123

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Re: paint
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2012, 01:45:15 PM »
Touch up paint is available from BMW dealers at $17 for a pen;

http://www.ascycles.com/detail.aspx?ID=107642

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Re: paint
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2012, 04:23:05 PM »
Thanks for the link to A&S. Did not find Artic Silver (705) on the list:(
Lynn

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Re: paint
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2012, 04:42:47 PM »
Arctic Silver: Part number is 51910302033 and it looks like it's no longer available.  Worth a call to a dealer just to make sure though.
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Motorandy123

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Re: paint
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2012, 07:07:30 PM »
It looks discontinued but I found this on EBAY not sure it's the same...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-OEM-BMW-Touch-Up-Paint-Code-309-ARCTIC-SILVER-MET-BMW-FACTORY-DEALER-/150807095488?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item231ccda8c0&vxp=mtr#ht_1459wt_1163

Looks like it's metalic and for a car, maybe find a car that color and compare to the bike?

Offline racinrich

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Re: paint
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2012, 10:14:36 PM »
bmw dealer said try colorrite.com
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Re: paint
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2012, 10:23:22 PM »
Listen to Turkus.  He's in the biz.
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Turkus

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touch-up paint
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2012, 10:59:38 PM »
Thanks Duck.... :yes

Bear in mind that "touch-up" paint is nothing more than the same stuff that your woman does her nails with.
It's a big glob of paint on the end of a tiny brush and all it succeeds in doing is putting lots of colored zits on your tupperware.
Filling a scratch with touch-up paint just makes big ugly colored scars.
This stuff is NOT meant to be sprayed and "might" be thinned out if you know what it's made of - reducer or mineral spirits will sometimes work.
Also, touch-up pens have a shelf life....6 months (maybe) if kept in a moderate temperature environment, 30 days if you keep it under your seat in your tool roll.

I've had much better luck with colored Sharpies when it comes to concealing small imperfections in the paint.
YMMV

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Re: paint
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2012, 12:05:44 AM »
A sharpie might work if I could find one in the correct color. Do they make a silver sharpie?
I have three very small marks on my tank that go all the way to the metal.
I can live live with small scars, so touch up pain is OK.
Lynn

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1995 K75/3A Standard

Past:
1978 Yamaha xs750(P.O.S.)
1976 R60/6 RIP

Turkus

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touch-up paint
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2012, 12:09:52 AM »
A sharpie might work if I could find one in the correct color. Do they make a silver sharpie?
I have three very small marks on my tank that go all the way to the metal.
I can live live with small scars, so touch up paint is OK.

Your local artsy-fartsy craft store might have a glitter-pen or something like that - most silvers have a light grey basecoat so trying to match that will be tricky - maybe some model airplane paint from your local hobby store would be a better option

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Re: paint
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2012, 12:14:14 AM »
Yes, they make silver Sharpies.

Turkus - Know anything about products like LANGKA that claim to smooth out touch-up blobs?
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Turkus

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touch-up paint
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2012, 01:21:12 AM »
Yes, they make silver Sharpies.

Turkus - Know anything about products like LANGKA that claim to smooth out touch-up blobs?

Never heard of it Duck....is that like the stuff on the infomercials for $19.95 ??  :hmm:

Good touch-up is a lost art.....the best way is to use the fuzzy end of a paper match out of a matchbook (or a toothpick) instead of the brush in the cap and apply a SMALL amount to the chip, let it dry/shrink, and then maybe add a little more later (like tomorrow).
'Tis always better to do it twice with a thin drop than once with a big, gooey drop.....
If you are skilled with some 1500-2000grit sandpaper then you can take the top of the blob off and then polish it with polishing compound (NOT rubbing compound).

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