Author Topic: 85 K100 ...all of a sudden backfiring and stalling when HOT!  (Read 129 times)

Offline Atabeach

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Ok was running absolutely perfect, yesterday...she always backfired under deceleration but now on low rpm throttle. Starts right up, soon as the temps get up backfiring & stalling on low RPM.  OK soooo I used the propane trick to check for leaks at the throttle bodies...no noticeable increase in RPM. Pressed the starter button, verrrry slight decrease in RPM. The fuel pump is new , Z hose new...checked for leaks in and around air box... next Im going to take out plugs and see how they look. any usual suspects Im missing? TIA
 
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Re: 85 K100 ...all of a sudden backfiring and stalling when HOT!
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2026, 04:56:38 PM »
Verify that the battery positive clamp, the battery ground clamp and the battery ground cable attachment on the transmission are tight.

Click this link to the opening post of the Service Manual section here. Click on the link to Vogel's troubleshooting guide at the bottom of the opening post. Perform the tests of the throttle switch and the coolant temperature sensor explained on pp. 25–29. Let us know the results.
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Re: 85 K100 ...all of a sudden backfiring and stalling when HOT!
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2026, 08:56:01 PM »
Thanks Laitch, So I checked the Grounds and Positive terminals and then spent about an hour reviewing Vogels detailed post. Very informative, thanks.
1) The post referenced non start issue regarding throttle switch. Page 7/8 I did not see how to test it. For historical purposes the bike is an 85 and …backfires. Maybe It should be changed. Please advise.
2) I did not see how to test coolant temperature sensor either. Please let me know the ohm value or how to test the unit ….
 I did discover an oil leak coming from the bottom of the air box ( photo 1) 
 Thanks again.
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Re: 85 K100 ...all of a sudden backfiring and stalling when HOT!
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2026, 10:22:49 PM »
Thanks Laitch, So I checked the Grounds and Positive terminals and then spent about an hour reviewing Vogels detailed post. Very informative, thanks.
1) The post referenced non start issue regarding throttle switch. Page 7/8 I did not see how to test it. For historical purposes the bike is an 85 and …backfires. Maybe It should be changed.
The photo of the air box in your post is of the intake air system on an 4-valve engine, not a 2-valve engine as should be in an '85 K100. The 2-valve air box that connects to the throttle bodies is pictured below. What's going on, Florida Man?  :laughing4-giggles:

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Re: 85 K100 ...all of a sudden backfiring and stalling when HOT!
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2026, 10:38:17 PM »
Ok soooo no internal hose, Check!
Can i assume since the fan clicked on the coolant sensor is good?...or is there a different sensor?
In Vogles post he stated that the hall sensor seemed to act up when heated...we are in Florida.
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Re: 85 K100 ...all of a sudden backfiring and stalling when HOT!
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2026, 10:59:35 PM »
Ok soooo no internal hose, Check!
Check? None of that assembly belongs on a 2-valve K100 Brick so what's a photo of it doing in a thread about the performance of a 2V Brick engine? I don't know what you've got going down there in the steamy sub-tropics. Will you offer a comprehensible explanation? My next dose of coffee isn't until after 8am tomorrow.
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Re: 85 K100 ...all of a sudden backfiring and stalling when HOT!
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2026, 11:08:46 PM »
The photo was posted in error, I will attempt to remove it.
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Re: 85 K100 ...all of a sudden backfiring and stalling when HOT!
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2026, 03:50:29 PM »
I did discover an oil leak coming from the bottom of the air box   
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Is this a photo of one of your Brick's throttle bodies? If it is, what is the blue linear object in it?
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Re: 85 K100 ...all of a sudden backfiring and stalling when HOT!
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2026, 04:40:11 PM »
Throttle body nearest to Z hose ...Blue object is pointer to the area of oil leak...
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Re: 85 K100 ...all of a sudden backfiring and stalling when HOT!
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2026, 10:09:45 PM »
The 2V air box has throttle body intake pipes molded into it as can be seen in previous post #3. There are no joints in the box’s construction to leak; it would need to be cracked. Leaking is unlikely because crankcase blow-by is received into the air box from the z-tube then mixed with air being drawn from the box through the throttle bodies. Oil shouldn’t be "flowing" anywhere in the air box to create a leak. Oil should be in blow-by vapor that enters the throttle bodies to then be ignited in the cylinders. It’s possible that the z-tube is leaking where it is attached causing some oil vapor to condense on the outside of the air box instead of all oil vapor entering the throttle bodies. If the intake rubber hoses were leaking, that would have been evident in your propane test.

Closer inspection is needed.
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