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Offline KJM00

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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2022, 06:09:08 PM »
well, lots of frustration but progress has been made. I ran a volt check on the connector and was reading 11 to 12 on green and white. so I pulled the pump, connected it to my battery and it worked without issue. while it was hanging outside of the tank I decided to give it a try to see if it might work while turning the key. to no avail. so right now it appears that my motorcycle is not energizing the pump. I also did check the fuse which was not blown. seems to be fuel pump relay?
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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2022, 06:56:31 PM »
Quote from: KJM00 on April 15, 2022, 06:09:08 PM
. . . while it was hanging outside of the tank I decided to give it a try to see if it might work while turning the key. to no avail. so right now it appears that my motorcycle is not energizing the pump.
The pump won't start until the starter button is pushed when the ignition switch is On.
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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2022, 07:13:53 PM »
If you're getting voltage at the green and white wire from the wiring harness side of the connector when you try to start then both the fuse and FI relay are good. The FI relay sends power to Fuse 6 that then goes to the green/white wire for the fuel pump power.

If you get voltage at the green white wire when you hit the start  button and you've confirmed that the pump works then it is most likely the connector going bad or, worst case, wiring in the fuel level sender.

Connect the tank. Connect your voltmeter to smaller terminal fuel pump wire inside of the tank (probably a faded yellow wire) and see if it gets voltage when you spin the motor with the start button.

It is not uncommon for fuel tank connectors to have issues.

Here's one way to replace it:
http://www.kbikeparts.com/classickbikes.com/ckb.tech/0.ckb.tech.files/fls.connector/fls.connector.htm
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Offline KJM00

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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2022, 07:14:55 PM »
Quote from: Laitch on April 15, 2022, 06:56:31 PM
The pump won't start until the starter button is pushed when the ignition switch is On.
Clarification on my part was bad. (Start button plus key turn.)
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Offline KJM00

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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2022, 07:23:47 PM »
I actually had to replace my fuel tank connector once already. About five years ago my Bosch was replaced by the trailer 4-pin. I'll attach a picture of the heresy.

I'll give the test a try on the yellow wire.
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Offline KJM00

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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2022, 07:31:12 PM »
No volts here.
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Offline KJM00

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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2022, 07:32:23 PM »
volts here.
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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2022, 08:41:00 PM »
Four and a half years ago, this was happening. Have you revisited that component?
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Offline KJM00

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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2022, 10:39:54 PM »
Mechanic found that one for me, gonna have to hope to figure it out myself! But that's next step
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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2022, 10:54:13 PM »
I had a K100 guy come by house one day who had just run some wires under the gas gap to the fuel pump.  Pretty ghetto solution but it did work. :laughing4-giggles:
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Offline KJM00

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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2022, 09:39:20 AM »
Quote from: KJM00 on April 15, 2022, 10:39:54 PM
Mechanic found that one for me, gonna have to hope to figure it out myself! But that's next step
To quote Alex Jones, "Im Kinda Retarded" a mechanic solve this issue for me. originally. The symptoms weren't exactly the same but your spot on it ended up being the issue that plagued me 5 years ago. My brick is running again! going to go right around and hope to restore faith in it, but this old bastard was the issue. I clean the absolute crap out of it with electric cleaner, but I'm probably going to have to replace the female component at some point. thank you all very much for your help. you guys are invaluable
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Offline alexg

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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2022, 04:11:44 PM »
Have you tried unplugging and plugging all the way in the big connector to the ECM? It is located on top of the battery, accessible from the LHS removing the side panel.
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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2022, 09:47:42 PM »
Quote from: KJM00 on April 16, 2022, 09:39:20 AM
To quote Alex Jones, "Im Kinda Retarded" a mechanic solve this issue for me. originally. The symptoms weren't exactly the same but your spot on it ended up being the issue that plagued me 5 years ago. My brick is running again! going to go right around and hope to restore faith in it, but this old bastard was the issue. I clean the absolute crap out of it with electric cleaner, but I'm probably going to have to replace the female component at some point. thank you all very much for your help. you guys are invaluable

Hi glad you found the solution, what is this connector??
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Re: K75S Died at traffic light, won't start
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2022, 09:59:27 AM »
Quote from: foliver on April 18, 2022, 09:47:42 PM
Hi glad you found the solution, what is this connector??
The connector is the fuel injection/fuel pump relay connector pictured in post #35 of this thread.
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