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Offline frankenduck

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Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« on: September 17, 2011, 11:21:16 AM »
After 18+ years and 75,000 miles the fuel lines on the 93 K1100RS I recently acquired are rather old and cracked.

Here's the one from the FPR to the gas tank:



And here's the one from the fuel rail to the tank.  Not only is it cracked at the bend but it also has some longitudinal cracks along the length of the line:



Since I plan to keep this bike for a little while I decided to replace all of the fuel lines.  To save a few $$$ I decided to use generic fuel line to replace them.  It takes a little less than four feet of fuel line to replace all three fuel lines.  I purchased four feet of fuel line for $5/foot at a local auto parts store.  The OEM fuel lines have an inside diameter of 8mm.  Fortunately, in the US anyhow, one of the standard sizes for fuel lines is 5/16" - which is 7.9mm.  If you're doing this, be sure to purchase fuel line that is rated for fuel injected fuel systems.  "Regular" fuel line is not made to withstand the pressure in a fuel injected system.

You'll also probably want to get a couple of 13mm hose clamps for reconnecting the two lines to the fuel pressure regulator as the factory used one-use Oetiker clamps on those.

Here's the step by step:

1- Remove the gas tank and disconnect both fuel lines from it.

2- Remove the belly pan.

3- Remove the left inner knee panel.

4- Remove the left fairing lower.

5- At the lower front of the fuel rail disconnect the fuel line that runs through the throttle bodies to the fuel pressure regulator.

6- Remove the right inner knee panel.

7- Remove the right fairing lower.

8- Remove the air intake snorkel.

9- Remove the three clips holding the upper and lower halves of the air box together. The right rear one is obvious.  The left rear one is somewhat buried and is easiest to access it if you take the top coil cover off and push some wires out of the the way.  The front one is "upside-down" and somewhat hidden on the front of the air box.

10- Push the foam heat barrier on top of the air box around to the front to allow a little more upward play in the top half of the air box.

11- Remove the air filter.  Note that there is no lip on the left upper edge so the "easiest" way to remove it is to lift the air filter up at the back as much as you can and then pull it straight out to the right side of the bike. (If you're replacing the fuel lines then this is also a good time to consider replacing the air filter - or at least blowing some compressed air through it from the top to clean it out a bit.)

12- Remove the lower half of the air box.  Unlike the earlier Ks, the lower air box on a K1100 is not bolted to the engine block so you can pull it right out.  It's a bit of a wrestling match though given the tight space.  What worked for me was pushing it forward a little, then rotating it counter-clockwise and pulling up and back and out at about a 45 degree angle.

13- Remove the fuel pressure regulator.  It's bracket is mounted to the rear of the throttle body assembly at the top via two Phillips head machine screws.


14- Remove the Oetiker clamps securing the two fuel lines to the fuel pressure regulator. (I use a Dremel cutting wheel in the center of the "pinch.")

15- Cut your new fuel line to replace those two hoses. Note that generic fuel line won't have a pre-curved right angle in it on the one to the fuel rail so you'll want to make that one about a half an inch longer than the old one so that it doesn't kink where it connects to the fuel rail.

16- Connect your new lines to the fuel pressure regulator.


17- Reinstall the fuel pressure regulator.  Note that the line from the fuel pressure regulator to the tank goes in between the "elephant trunks" for the #3 and #4 throttle bodies.

18- Replace the fuel line between the fuel rail and the gas tank with one of approximately the same length.

19- Put everything back together in the reverse order of how you took it apart.
         

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Offline frodef

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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 04:56:51 AM »
Thanks! Would a K75 be approximately the same procedure?

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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 09:40:53 AM »
Thanks! Would a K75 be approximately the same procedure?

YES, just make sure you R&R with a FI rated clamp.

Pressure spikes will cause  a worm type to fail. (cut hose)

They look like the below imbedded jpeg.



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Offline Lawrence

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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 02:53:26 PM »
I'm pretty certain my 1985 K100RS still sports the original fuel lines, so I'd probably better change them out.  It looks like the OEM lines are molded with curves in all the right places; generic FI fuel lines would be straight.  Is that likely to be a problem?  And, just how much money does one save by not buying OEM?  I haven't priced them, but since they are likely to last longer than I am, maybe even the cheeky BMW prices make a certain amount of sense. 
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 01:38:13 PM »
I'm planning to do this to my K75 in the near future so got out some old lines and measured them.  To start with, on a 2V K bike you only need a little over 2.5 feet of fuel line so you only need to buy 3 feet of fuel line not 4 like you need for a 4V bike.

As far as the bends go the only one that's an issue is the roughly 90 degree bend where the line exits the fuel rail to the Fuel pressure regulator.  If you make the line the exact same length as your old one then it will pinch a little so add about a half an inch or so to the length of that one to avoid that.

As far as savings go:

K75 OEM prices ~ $72 vs. $15 for generic fuel line
K100 OEM prices ~ $65 vs. $15
4V K bike ~ $64 vs. $20

And you'll need a couple of extra hose clamps to replace the Oetiker clamps. Those cost about $2 at a dealer - 13311460928.
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2012, 08:51:45 PM »
Thanks. Re read this today and am going to replace all hoses including the ones I just did in the tank cuz I used the wrong (non fuel injected) hose. 
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2012, 09:29:38 PM »
FYI:  The lines in the tank also need to be submersible as well as FI rated.  Regular FI fuel hose isn't necessarily submersible in gas.
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 09:50:02 PM »
FYI:  The lines in the tank also need to be submersible as well as FI rated.  Regular FI fuel hose isn't necessarily submersible in gas.
Cool, didn't know that. I found oem line at 7$ per ft.  I bought it all at the spec that is the internal tank line.
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 09:50:08 PM »
FYI:  The lines in the tank also need to be submersible as well as FI rated.  Regular FI fuel hose isn't necessarily submersible in gas.

Here's an source for fuel line at excellent pricing.

http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=5091&location_id=541

I used a wire covering for the bend of the front rail hose, simply bent the wire to the correct position,easy beans,fits like OEM or better.
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2012, 09:53:03 PM »
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I used a wire covering for the bend of the front rail hose, simply bent the wire to the correct position,easy beans,fits like OEM or better.

Tell me more about the wire covering contraption.
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 06:47:59 AM »
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I used a wire covering for the bend of the front rail hose, simply bent the wire to the correct position,easy beans,fits like OEM or better.

Tell me more about the wire covering contraption.

Akin to the vacuum hose spring covering that connects to the FPR.

Trip to the hardware store produced a spring the fuel hose would slide into. Shape/bend the spring and your good to go. Total cost was about 90 cents if I remember correctly.
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2012, 03:56:17 PM »
That's a good tip, Gary.

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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2012, 08:38:00 AM »
YES, just make sure you R&R with a FI rated clamp.
Pressure spikes will cause  a worm type to fail. (cut hose)

Thanks Gary saw this at the right moment, have a couple of worms on breather hose might not cause a pressure spike but I did wonder about the chance of it splitting the rubber.
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2016, 01:49:12 PM »
I want to pre-order my hoses and clamps before I jump into the fuel line replacement on my K100RS.  What length of submersible line is needed inside the tank?  (Will 1' suffice?)
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2016, 02:12:02 PM »

12'' is just enough. Use hose clips designed for fuel injection not worm drive clips.
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2016, 02:30:02 PM »



Yes, the PO used worm drive clamps and that's part of the reason for the R&R.
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Re: Replacing the fuel lines on a K1100RS
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2017, 08:41:27 PM »

The rea line coming from the fuel pressure regulator coming up through the area between the 3rd and 4th snorkel, that line connects to the from fuel fitting or the back fuel fitting. Don't know how I did it but think I might of switched the fuel rail rear hose running it to the front fuel fitting when in fact I'm thinking it should connect to the rear most fuel fitting.


Can anyone advise?

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