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Offline Vespa no more

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Stripped Triple Clamp Allen Bolts
« on: July 24, 2016, 01:05:02 AM »
Long story short: hammer a ring spanner onto the bolt head


Allen bolts were stripped. Had tried a number of options: presoak with WD40, light tap with something heavy (hammer), ... no movement ... blow torch, allen key and vice grips, dremelled a slot across the top, impact driver... nothing!

Was suggested by a friend that I weld a ring spanner to the bolt head. Not wanting to waste a good spanner, I found an older ring spanner and belted it onto the bolt head. impressed with how tight it was, I gave it a try and off it came. Welding it would definately have moved it but would only allow a quarter turn before contacting nearby metal work.


A good case for copper paste as a preventative.

Once the steering head was off - bearings revealed sticky old grease. thankfully bearings are serviceable.

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Guy



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Offline Martin

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Re: Stripped Triple Clamp Allen Bolts
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2016, 01:26:31 AM »
WD 40 is a lubricant, but apparently pretty useless at moving frozen bolts, the best stuff is a mixture of acetone and auto trans fluid 50-50. There are comparisons on the web and this comes out as no 1. At the moment I am using a product called Inox seems to work OK, but might try the homebrew.
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Re: Stripped Triple Clamp Allen Bolts
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2016, 04:10:37 AM »
I am a major fan of Inox - basically a marine version of WD40. Not cheap - $11 per can approx
Has lanoline through it and leaves an oily residue - bit like silicone spray
Great for stalling surface rust.
Beer in one hand Inox in the other you can spray away and think you've done some important maintenance.

WD40 is preferred by cyclists for cables and chains because of the lack of residue.
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Re: Stripped Triple Clamp Allen Bolts
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2016, 05:07:10 AM »
I'm not seeing what you mean by 'belted' it to the bolt head. How did you get the splined spanner ring to get purchase on the round bolt head?
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Offline Quiltzig

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Re: Stripped Triple Clamp Allen Bolts
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2016, 06:03:29 AM »
When he says "belted" he means a dirty big hammer was used to whack the ring spanner onto the round head of the hex cap bolt. This is an example of Aussie colloquial language, which we Kiwis can translate!
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Re: Stripped Triple Clamp Allen Bolts
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2016, 06:15:32 AM »
I agree with my mate of the ditch in Oz, that copper anti seize is a "must do" on these bikes.
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Offline Motorhobo

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Re: Stripped Triple Clamp Allen Bolts
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2016, 01:16:47 PM »
When he says "belted" he means a dirty big hammer was used to whack the ring spanner onto the round head of the hex cap bolt. This is an example of Aussie colloquial language, which we Kiwis can translate!

Thanks -- guess I shoulda figured that out. Never occurred to me that you could do that.

I tried the home-brew acetone and auto trans fluid 50-50 but the spray bottle I put it in lasted about a day. That can't be good for paint. I keep PB Blaster around, works pretty good if you give it long enough to work and the spray can keeps for a long time and is convenient.
1994/1995 K75 ABS Frankenbike: original engine 136k miles, frame from Gary Weaver (RIP), 173k miles -- Current Odometer: 198k miles
1994 K75 since 2013, 82,000 mi (19k mine) w/California Sidecar Friendship II Sidecar & Black Lab 'Miss B' - RIP

Past: 1974 Honda 550/4 (first bike), 1994 K75 (sold), 1995 K75 ABS (parts bike), Sidecar Dog & Best Bud 'Bo' - RIP

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