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Offline Motorhobo

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Lock barrels on sidecases coming out
« on: August 22, 2014, 06:54:19 PM »
My inclination is just to JB Weld 'em back in there but then I'll never ever get 'em out again. Suggestions?
1994/1995 K75 ABS Frankenbike: original engine 136k miles, frame from Gary Weaver (RIP), 173k miles -- Current Odometer: 198k miles
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Offline rbm

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Re: Lock barrels on sidecases coming out
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2014, 08:28:45 PM »
Are these System 3 cases?  Have you read the articles on re-keying locks? If your locks are coming out, the retainer tang is not doing its job.  Do a close inspection to find out why they are falling down on the job.
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Toronto, Ontario

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Re: Lock barrels on sidecases coming out
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2014, 09:10:11 PM »
No. I hadn't read that article -- yes, they're the System 3 cases -- and obviously JBWeld would be a very bad idea. I had this problem many many years ago when the bike was still relatively new and I had more money to throw at it -- I think the dealer ended up selling me a new lock core and installing it.

The article demonstrates what the retainer tang does but doesn't touch on possible causes of failure or remedies.

I'll take a look at it next chance I get but if anyone else has had their lock core start to wiggle and slide forward, feel free to chime in.
1994/1995 K75 ABS Frankenbike: original engine 136k miles, frame from Gary Weaver (RIP), 173k miles -- Current Odometer: 198k miles
1994 K75 since 2013, 82,000 mi (19k mine) w/California Sidecar Friendship II Sidecar & Black Lab 'Miss B' - RIP

Past: 1974 Honda 550/4 (first bike), 1994 K75 (sold), 1995 K75 ABS (parts bike), Sidecar Dog & Best Bud 'Bo' - RIP

Offline rbm

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Re: Lock barrels on sidecases coming out
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2014, 09:35:15 PM »
The lock core is free to rotate within the lock cylinder, but it constrained by the key wafers and retained by the last wafer.  That special retainer wafer snaps open and prevents the lock core from being extracted from the cylinder.  See how it sticks up when a key is inserted into the core:


Think of it as if it were a snap ring; it functions in the same manner that a snap ring would prevent a shaft from moving (because the snap ring bangs up against something).  To extract the lock core, the retainer wafer is pushed inwards so that it retracts into the lock core and then the core can be removed.

In your case, that retainer wafer is not doing its job because maybe it is broken off.  Or maybe it is not snapping up into position after the lock core having been removed once in its life.  When you examine the lock mechanism, it will become quickly apparent how this functions, and equally apparent if the retainer is broken or missing.  Compare a correctly functioning lock to a failing lock will help you to see what is going on.
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Toronto, Ontario

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