I think a lot of being a survivor is the people you ride with. Riding in large groups in "organized" rides is something I don`t do anymore. Anyone can buy a motorcycle, but not everyone can ride one. I now ride mostly alone or with friends that I have ridden with for years. I was on a Rolling Thunder ride a few years back and saw a rider in the group of 75 bikes talking on his cell phone. Total disreguard for the group. Now don`t get me wrong, I have done stupid stuff and I have the scars to prove it. But I like to think I learned from my mistakes. Now I try to steer clear of others while they learn their life lessons. I know I have many more lessons to learn, but I would just as soon learn them by myself, (its less embarrassing) than take out another rider. If a mistake that I make takes out another, I`ll give it up, but when you ride alone, it`s less likely to happen. Jerry