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Offline C_Mick

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In search of the Holy Grail of a truly universal grease
« on: April 05, 2012, 03:34:48 PM »
Living as I do in a small town, the hub of a farming region in Western Cape province, South Africa one becomes adept at finding substitute products because many branded goods available stateside and in Europe are simply unavailable in SA. Or if they can be sourced here the sales agent for the product may be based hundreds of miles away and the cost of delivery by a courier service may turn out to be much greater than the cost of the product itself.  All too often, it seems "the Bar eats you..."
Imagine how good it feels when occasionally you get to eat the Bar.  For several hours during the past few days I have beavered away on-line to find suppliers of a suitable drive spline lubricant and a dielectric grease.  I had drawn a blank locally and had almost resigned myself to ordering from a supplier in Jo'burg which would have meant incurring hefty delivery charges on top of the retail price of the goods. Then in a flash I had an "I think, therefore I am." moment.  Farmers use automotive machines...the machines use lubricants...which must be available locally.  Yes!  :2thumbup: I hauled myself over to the John Deere dealership faster than the proverbial speeding bullet.
I chatted for a while with the head mechanic at the dealership and discussed the applications I had in mind.  His primary recommendation was for:
John Deere Multi-Purpose SD Polyurea Grease
His team of mechanics use this for a wide range of applications including lubricating drive splines, lubricating o rings and brake applications where it's important to prevent water ingress.  It come pretty close to being a truly universal grease. 
If a requirement of the grease is to operate in a very low temperature environment (not the case in SA) then he would put his money on another JD grease:
Multi-Purpose Extreme Duty Synthetic Grease
This is perhaps the ultimate all-in-one grease; as well as being able to cope with the demands of 'extreme duties' it is also a dielectric grease and can therefore be used to protect electrical connections from unfavorable elements.  It is, however, about 3 times the price of JD Multi-Purpose SD Polyurea Grease (JDMPSDPG).
Wishing to minimize my carbon footprint (what a great excuse for meanness) I bought a tube of JDMPSDPG with the intention of lubeing the final drive splines of my K75S this weekend.  With the backing of the worldwide JD organization behind it, I have every confidence in the product to do its duty.

The relevant link is:  https://jdparts.deere.com/partsmkt/document/english/pmac/8180_fb_GreaseSpecialMultiPurpose.htm
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Re: In search of the Holy Grail of a truly universal grease
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 04:48:45 PM »
Hi C-Mick

I just want to say that the scenery in your profile pic looks amazing. Hope you're going to put up some pictures of riding in Western Cape.

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Offline wmax351

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Re: In search of the Holy Grail of a truly universal grease
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 08:02:16 PM »
Looked at those greases. They probably aren't what is needed. You need more moly. I suppose brake caliper grease (the nasty, thick, gloopy, black stuff) would be okay, because it has a lot of moly. A honda dealer may have some moly-60.
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Re: In search of the Holy Grail of a truly universal grease
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2012, 08:10:51 PM »
I would think even if a dealer doesn't have it in stock they could order some for you.  Honda part # is 2963866.
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Re: In search of the Holy Grail of a truly universal grease
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2012, 08:26:12 PM »
If JD have it then surely it would be available from a Hardly ableto drugdealer

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Re: In search of the Holy Grail of a truly universal grease
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2012, 08:39:03 PM »
If JD have it then surely it would be available from a Hardly ableto drugdealer

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Offline Flick

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Re: In search of the Holy Grail of a truly universal grease
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2012, 03:12:18 AM »
You should look for "high impact" grease for the splines the higher the moly the better. High impact is more important than moly. High moly grease doesn't help if it squishs out of the splines, low moly grease means you will need to lube more often. For wheel bearings I like the salt water resistant grease that is used on boat motors.

Offline Lawrence

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Re: In search of the Holy Grail of a truly universal grease
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2012, 10:30:32 PM »
When you get a kit for replacing the boots on auto CV joints, the boots include some grease in an aluminum envelop with which to pack the CV joint.  It is dark gray and, to my untrained eye, looks a whole lot like moly grease.  Who know something about it?  Does it have a high moly content?   :hmm:
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Re: In search of the Holy Grail of a truly universal grease
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2012, 10:54:17 PM »
When you get a kit for replacing the boots on auto CV joints, the boots include some grease in an aluminum envelop with which to pack the CV joint.  It is dark gray and, to my untrained eye, looks a whole lot like moly grease.  Who know something about it?  Does it have a high moly content?   :hmm:

I think it does. You can look at the spec sheet.
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Re: In search of the Holy Grail of a truly universal grease
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2012, 03:31:55 PM »
http://www.guarddogmolylubricants.com/prod-moto.shtml

I've used their GD-570 (73% molybdenum disulfide) Moly Paste for splines. Superb. 
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Re: In search of the Holy Grail of a truly universal grease
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2012, 03:44:43 PM »
i used to sell Schaeffers Supreme 238 Grease and it is wonderful stuff. They are the oldest lubricants mfg in the us out of St. Louis.  Have many tubes left over. High Moly content and wont pound out. I will be using it on splines soon. www.schaeffers.com jeff
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