Author Topic: '91 K75S hop and wobble  (Read 15703 times)

Offline kurtk75s

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Re: '91 K75S hop and wobble
« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2021, 09:53:51 PM »
Good suggestion.  It might come to that.

The first time I changed tires on my RT,  after breaking the bead I went to remove the tire and f-Ing dyna beads scattered all over my garage floor.  I was not happy.  So there is source of my prejudice against dyna beads.  I’ve never had a balance problem in the last 33 years so I just thought they were a solution looking for a problem.

I’ve convinced myself that it is a problem with either:  wheels, tire, front suspension.  The rear shock is still a possibility but will be a last resort.

Dyna beads are relatively cheap to try, though.

  • Syracuse, NY
  • 1991 K75S

Offline kurtk75s

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Re: '91 K75S hop and wobble
« Reply #51 on: September 09, 2021, 10:17:22 PM »
PMP,  I will do each independently.  The only thing I will double up on is:  when I have the wheel off, I’m going to rotate the one of the brake disks 180 degrees as well.  Changing the oil will only take a few minutes.  Fork springs only slightly longer.  I’m getting pretty quick at disassembling and reassembling both the front and rear end of the bike thanks to this issue.  I think my last tire change and balance took less than an hour for both wheels!

Regarding fluid level.  I may experiment with that AFTER the springs if I still have issues. 

As a side note:  I’ve started my winter project which is a frame up on an R90/6.  I’m going much farther with that project because all of the seals need to be replaced.  It only has 15k miles but sat in a barn neglected for 30 years.  I am approaching it as an educational exercise.  The K75 was too nice to really dig into.  I can’t make the airhead worse than it is 😁.
  • Syracuse, NY
  • 1991 K75S

Offline alexg

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Re: '91 K75S hop and wobble
« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2021, 11:06:59 AM »
I read with interest this trail. Since your wife commented about the hop being under the seat, could it be that you have a stiff U-joint? That would be really bad for the splines too.

Alex
  • Michigan
  • '93 K75S, 1975 BMW R75/6 & 1984 Yamaha RZ350
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Offline milq

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Re: '91 K75S hop and wobble
« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2021, 12:00:10 PM »
Have you checked the swingarm and bearings for play or stiffness? Just tossing stuff out there.
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  • 1988 K75S

Offline daveson

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Re: '91 K75S hop and wobble
« Reply #54 on: September 10, 2021, 07:55:47 PM »
Probably all's I can toss in.

Don't remember if it's at the same speed in another gear. In a lower gear if it's still happening at the same speed, could point to suspension. If it's revs related, could point to the drivetrain.

Could a dynamic balance do the trick.

Maybe get to the trouble speed on the centre stand, might help to eliminate some stuff, dunno if that's been mentioned yet.
  • Victoria, Australia
  • Current; '85 K100RT~100,000km; four other bricks. Past; Vulcan 1500, V Star 650, KLX 250(dirt bike) TT250(dirt bike)

Offline kurtk75s

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Re: '91 K75S hop and wobble
« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2021, 08:19:28 PM »
Thanks for the comments. 

1.  If the U joint is bad I’ll be pissed because this is a brand new $$$ driveshaft.  I think my wife may have noticed the bounce because the bad rear shock was amplifying it from her perspective.  When I run the bike on the center stand, it appears to be smooth so that is why I think it is tire, wheel, or suspension.

2.  At the Green Mountain rally, a friend also suggested swing arm bearings as something to look at if all else fails.  I was going to ask this group if anyone has experience with swingarm bearings going bad - what are the symptoms?  My friend is a very experienced professional mechanic, Connecticut airhead air Marshall, and has restored a number of beautiful bikes.  He said that he had a similar hop on an R100 and he never figured out what it was.  It eventually went away.  That didn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

3.  The symptom is the same no matter what gear the bike is in or if the clutch is pulled in.

This is a crazy situation where I have multiple issues compounding each other.  I always assume that if something is wrong after I work on it, it is related to something that I touched even if it is seemingly unrelated.  So far this hasn’t been the case with this problem.  The shock and steering bearing looseness were things I hadn’t messed with. 
  • Syracuse, NY
  • 1991 K75S

Offline daveson

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Re: '91 K75S hop and wobble
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2021, 09:29:56 PM »
You might get an opportunity to swap the final drive. Or other bits. I know trial and error isn't the proper way but that's what I sometimes do.
  • Victoria, Australia
  • Current; '85 K100RT~100,000km; four other bricks. Past; Vulcan 1500, V Star 650, KLX 250(dirt bike) TT250(dirt bike)

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