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Offline DavidATL

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routing GPS/Nav system
« on: June 15, 2020, 08:15:28 AM »
Until now, I've used a Garmin for trip routing. It's somewhat time consuming to plan a specific route. Though I prefer a laptop vs cell/ mobile screen, I was willing to try the Scenic app and really like it so far. I am wondering what other BMW riders.

What device or app do you use to plan a route?

For apps, please only include ones that are iPhone compatible so that it's an apples to apples comparison. What? You know that was funny....
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Offline The Mighty Gryphon

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Re: routing GPS/Nav system
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2020, 09:11:19 AM »
What is your idea or goal when planning a trip?  Are there roads you want to ride?  Things you want to see?  Want to surprise yourself?  Get to a certain destination?   

I have a combination of goals when I travel.  I like to go places and see things while riding nice roads.  I like surprises, like finding a really good Cajun restaurant out on the Bayous.  I like finding giant statues of things like dinosaurs, beer cans, chain saws, etc. 

My approach to trip planning doesn't require a fancy GPS.  Basically, I just use it to make a daily destination so I can see what my arrival time will be.  That way I have a reminder of when I need to stop screwing around and head out for where I'm spending the night. 

For the actual day's riding, I use a combination of resources.  First, is the AAA.  I get their maps and travel guides.  Besides helping get the "lay of the land" they are my emergency back up in case the GPS dies.  I have found some really nice roads by following the wiggly skinny lines on Triple A maps.  I've found that some of the best roads follow streams in the mountains. 

The internet is a great place to look for roads to ride and things to see.  Duck Duck Go, and Startpage searches for the things that interest you will give you more suggestions than you can handle in one trip.  There are websites with lists of "motorcycle" roads. 

I make a list of things I want to see and do, and mark them on a paper map.  I pick out the places where I want to spend the night, those are my daily destinations.  I also add a list of daily waypoints for must see places or things.

I do my detail planning the night before, taking into account the weather, traffic, how I'm enjoying the area, and input from the locals I talk to.  I will put three or four or five waypoints for the day and let my Nuvi figure out the best way to hit them all.  If something catches my attention, or I hear about something else I want to see, I just add it and let my Nuvi figure out how to get there. 

None of this uses Apps.  I don't use them because it seems that the suggestions they make are based on how much the proprietors of the attractions pay the app to promote them.  I know this because I have a friend who owned a bar that was constantly approached by Google to pay them to be included in their list of area attractions which they not only included in their search results, but also sold to other apps.  Sometimes the coolest places are the ones that catch your eye as you ride by.  The owners of these places don't normally have the need, desire, or cash to be included in GPS or smart phone apps. 

The best part of not going to the places the apps take you to is that you get into the places where the locals hang out.  Those are the places where you get the best local knowledge and the best memories are made.
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Offline K1300S

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Re: routing GPS/Nav system
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2020, 07:48:01 PM »
and i would be the opposite. i am not a sightseer.  i don't ride to see places.  i ride to experience specific roads.  i use a lot of waypoints to force a specific route that hits the roads i want to ride.  i don't want the garmin find the route for me.  waypoints for me are not places i want to see, they are turn points for a road i want to ride.  a days ride could have dozens of waypoints.

i use google maps satellite and terrain views to find interesting roads, then use Garmin Basecamp on my PC to do the detailed route/trip plan.  then i dump it to the Garmin GPS on the bike (or bikes if riding with others). 

i hope you are not actually using the Garmin GPS itself to do trip planning.  OMG what a pain in the butt that is.  do it on a PC then download to the GPS.
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Offline DavidATL

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Re: routing GPS/Nav system
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2020, 08:14:24 PM »
and i would be the opposite. i am not a sightseer.  i don't ride to see places.  i ride to experience specific roads.  i use a lot of waypoints to force a specific route that hits the roads i want to ride.  i don't want the garmin find the route for me.  waypoints for me are not places i want to see, they are turn points for a road i want to ride.  a days ride could have dozens of waypoints.

i use google maps satellite and terrain views to find interesting roads, then use Garmin Basecamp on my PC to do the detailed route/trip plan.  then i dump it to the Garmin GPS on the bike (or bikes if riding with others). 

i hope you are not actually using the Garmin GPS itself to do trip planning.  OMG what a pain in the butt that is.  do it on a PC then download to the GPS.

Sorry bud, I've been using basecamp and a Garmin to do exactly the same as you (but on a Mac). It works great. Other than the advantage of a larger screen and google satellite images on a tab, I found basecamp cumbersome to use. So far, I consider Scenic an upgrade.
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Re: routing GPS/Nav system
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2020, 08:55:51 PM »
You didn't mention that in your post... You just said "using a Garmin".

I don't find Basecamp too bad to use, just wish the map was as detailed as Google map so I could ditch the Google step of the process.
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Offline DavidATL

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Re: routing GPS/Nav system
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2020, 09:28:32 PM »
To be fair, I should spend more time learning to use basecamp. I reviewed some of the navigation key short cuts and learned a few that I missed. I still find it annoying when the way point is 50 ft of the road and I have to nudge it back on the pavement. I silly point but would prefer it it dropped the way point ON A ROAD by default. More than once, I haven't noticed that and had to deal with "recalculating" when I wasn't close enough to the point coordinates.

Just today, I found that I could turn off the alerts for all the way points. Perhaps that will help?

If I've missed a setting, feel free to chime in with suggestions.

Still supposed to upgrade the firmware on my garmin. That proved problematic over the winter and I proverbially tossed it aside in a moment of frustration.

TIA

 

I don't find Basecamp too bad to use, just wish the map was as detailed as Google map so I could ditch the Google step of the process.
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