Author Topic: K75 starter / relay making me crazy  (Read 3328 times)

Offline mufflerbearings

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K75 starter / relay making me crazy
« on: January 12, 2019, 11:13:25 AM »
I apologize for starting another thread on the low battery/starter relay issue, but I haven't found my specific problem in all my searching.

I damaged my 1987 K75's starter relay by starting the bike with a low battery.  I push-started the bike and rode it home (~10 miles) where the starter continued to spin until I disconnected the battery.  After installing a new battery and starter relay, the bike fired right up, all lights worked, etc.  However, when I stopped the engine, the starter continued to spin until I disconnected the battery.  Well, this is frustrating. 

When I reconnect the new battery and turn the key to the 'on' position, I get no headlight or tail light, but I do get dash lights, and the starter does not automatically engage.  The starter won't engage when I push the start button, but I can hear the fuel pump whirring and the new starter relay clicking (I beat on it a bit to unstick the contacts).  Rolling the bike back and forth in gear offers no help, but I notice that the headlight will flicker on for a second when rolling it backwards. 

I pulled the starter, which was cleaned and had new brushes installed within the last few thousand miles, and found that one of the brushes is worn to the point where it is not making good contact with the commutator.  The starter appears to otherwise be in good condition.  Is it possible that my current 'no start' problem is caused by the severely worn brushes (presumably caused by riding the bike after push-starting with the starter continually spinning)?     
  • Cathedral City, CA
  • 1987 K75

Offline Laitch

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Re: K75 starter / relay making me crazy
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 11:30:13 AM »
Is it possible that my current 'no start' problem is caused by the severely worn brushes . . .?     
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Offline The Mighty Gryphon

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Re: K75 starter / relay making me crazy
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2019, 12:19:28 PM »
  • In my garage in Marilla, NY
  • '91K100RS White/Blue
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'91 K100RS16V "Moby Brick Too"

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'94 K75RT "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS"
'92 K100RS16V "Moby Brick" (RIP, deceased in a vehicular assault)
'94 K75S Special Edition Dakar Yellow "Cheetos"
'89 K100RS Special Edition "Special Ed"

Offline mufflerbearings

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Re: K75 starter / relay making me crazy
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2019, 02:29:49 PM »
Thank you for the quick replies, Laitch and TMG!  Time to order some new brushes and [hopefully] get the old beast back on the road.   
  • Cathedral City, CA
  • 1987 K75

Offline John Lang

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Re: K75 starter / relay making me crazy
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2019, 03:02:15 PM »
The brushes have separate part numbers, despite the description of one of them as a 'set'. You need both.
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Offline mufflerbearings

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Re: K75 starter / relay making me crazy
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2019, 12:27:52 AM »
The brushes have separate part numbers, despite the description of one of them as a 'set'. You need both.

Thank you for pointing that out, John.  Especially since I'll need to order the OEM parts as no one seems to sell the kit that comes assembled as a plate with both brushes. 
  • Cathedral City, CA
  • 1987 K75

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