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Title: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 20, 2017, 05:27:19 PM
Does anyone know of a place that straightens wheels in the
NYS, New Jersey, Connecticut or Hudson Valley area. A truck
dropped firewood in my path yesterday causing my front and
rear wheel to bend. Real scary situation.
Bill 95 K75
Thanks
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 20, 2017, 09:35:42 PM
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Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 20, 2017, 09:37:44 PM
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Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 20, 2017, 09:39:59 PM
The first picture not that bad, rear wheel. The second  picture is worst, front wheel.
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: johnny on April 20, 2017, 09:48:15 PM
greetings...

this it what i would do... and if you try it and it works... yeeeehaaaaaa... if you try it and it doesnt work you gotta send it out anyway...

leave tior on wheel... inflate to 10 pounds over max on sidewall... strap wheel to 2@ 4 x 4s with bad lip facing up... make sure 1@ 4 x 4 is opposite the bad lip...

strap a 2 x 4 about 6" long to the lip... 1 strap on the left side of the 2 x 4 and 1 strap to the right side of the 2 x 4... im talking nylon ratchet straps... figger it out so the ratchet in on the 2 x 4 and not near your wheel when absolutely tight...

need a big freaking sledge... whack it in the middle of the 2 x 4...

the 4 x 4s stable the back side... the 2 x 4 spreads out the whack... butts the most force is on the bad lip... the bead helps keep the lip proper and not deform...

i betts it will take 5 or 6 whacks to make it right... just go slow and be methodical... have done 3@ 3 spoke wheels like this after paying a wheel straightener to do the same... i saw his table... this is how he did it...

the only thing is if its not true... a trueing table will be necessary... be wary of wheels straighteners... most use a dial gage and mapp gass with a rubber hammer... not so good for these wheels...

some wheels require heat... these bmw wheels do not like heat...

im thinking you think it out... do the deal... you will be riding on these wheels again...

j o
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 20, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
Johnny, what do you think about using a large c clamp?
Of course, I'm going to see what the insurance adjuster
has to say.
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Martin on April 20, 2017, 10:18:31 PM
Bill do you know who dropped the logs and did they stop?
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 20, 2017, 10:23:03 PM
I think I know where your going, but fortunately cars slowed down but no one stopped. The vehicle was towed from the location through my insurance company.


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Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 20, 2017, 10:23:48 PM
Unfornately


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Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 20, 2017, 10:28:28 PM
The cars behind me didn't stop because I kept the bike up right but it must have been a hell of a show for the cars behind me because it felt like it from my perspective.


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Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Martin on April 20, 2017, 11:18:35 PM
Good luck.  :popcorm I have seen it done.
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Laitch on April 20, 2017, 11:35:13 PM
. . . it must have been a hell of a show for the cars behind me because it felt like it from my perspective.
How fast were you traveling during this show?
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 21, 2017, 08:17:04 AM
greetings...

if this is an insurance claim id go for new wheels and tiors minimum... and a fork rebuild and a drive train rebuild cause you know you should...

i caint say anything about c clamps... im saying what i know happens at two wheel straightening shops i have visited... and what i have done to my wheels... one rear wheel was so bad it made my final drive waller out within 100 miles after a road construction no placarding situation...

none of them spin without some movement... all of them have some whack...

j o
Thanks Johnny


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Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 21, 2017, 08:18:05 AM
30 to 40


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Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Laitch on April 21, 2017, 08:37:34 AM
Bill do you know who dropped the logs . . .
They weren't logs, Martin, they were splits or blocks—UFOs to tropical Ozians.
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 21, 2017, 10:21:09 AM
They where splits
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Laitch on April 21, 2017, 11:02:08 AM
They where splits
Down South, coming through that with only damaged rims used to be called a Warning, not a Judgement  :grimreaper: .
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Filmcamera on April 21, 2017, 12:27:43 PM
You are to be congratulated on staying upright, most riders would have bailed at the very sight of those splits coming up.  You must have the reflexes of a cat combined with the balance of a mountain goat! :clap:
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on April 21, 2017, 01:09:28 PM
I don't know how I was able to keep it up right. I know I got off the seat, held on tight to the handle bars, the front reared up and then rear of the bike caught up with my rear which was off the seat. Then all I heard was the air gushing of air from the tires. All I know at 66 years of age it was a harrowing experience. I can say after riding 49 years it wasn't my worst.
The appraiser was here this morning and said I would need two wheels, two tires, after market windshield,
slight dent on the tank. All that may take me over there cost to repair and would possibly have to be totaled.
"???????????????????????????.?.
I really like this bike. He'll contact me on Monday
Any body hear of a guy named Woody that straightens wheels. H supposably advertises in the BMW MOA
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on April 21, 2017, 01:32:40 PM
See what they offer for the bike to total it, and what they want to buy it back from them.  There are some nice deals that come down that road.

Here's a very recent example, granted it's not a motorcycle, but it gives some idea of how insurance companies work.

One of our customer's boats(a 1970's Catalina 30) got loose and bumped into a couple other boats before we could stop it from drifting down the river.

He was trying to sell the boat for $10,500, the insurance company gave him $13,000 and totaled it.  The damage consisted of two bent stanchions, a busted window and some scratches in the gelcoat.  Rather than ship it to an auctioneer in Florida the company sold the boat to one of the guys who work here for $1500. 

Cost him about $600 and a couple days to fix everything, and he just sold it for $8500. 

Where in New York are you?  I have a good Y spoke rear wheel I can deliver for $100 if you aren't too far away.   Depending on how bad the tank is a paintless dent repair can get it back in shape for about $200 or less.  Good tanks on eBay aren't much more.
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Martin on April 21, 2017, 06:21:32 PM

A lot of Bricks in far worse condition have been brought back to life. See how much to buy back. you could end up with a cheap bike.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: wmax351 on April 22, 2017, 11:09:45 AM
Look for shops that do motorcycle frame straightening, typically they can do wheels as well. You might also look for wheel straightening for cars.


You could possibly claim this on your comprehensive (like with a animal strike) or uninsured/hit and run motorist insurance.
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on May 22, 2017, 05:19:13 PM
Everything went well with the first adjuster. It was agreed the bike would be repaired. After that he dropped the ball and it was assigned to another adjuster who totaled the the bike. I ended buying the bike back for an UNBELIEVABLE price. I now have the bike in my garage with two bent rims. Not easy trying to get used or someONE who straightens rims. Now I'm looking for anyone who straightens rims even out of my area of NYS,Ct or NJs.
Thank to all that posted
Bill
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Martin on May 22, 2017, 06:01:50 PM

The Trispoke wheels are harder to source than the Y spoke wheels. But the later Y spokes will fit and can be had for around $100.00 US and up. Front wheels all take the same tyre size, rear wheels can differ in tyre widths  and some took 18'' rears.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: kris on May 22, 2017, 07:55:12 PM
Just good to hear that you made it through in one piece. We face risks every time we mount up....an easy thing to forget since 99 per cent of the rides go well. But things can change in a heartbeat, as we know. Fixing the hardware is the easy part...you?? not so easy. Keep the faith!
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: bizzaro on June 24, 2017, 04:06:20 AM
not sure where your at with your wheels: decent price here on fleabay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-BMW-K1100LT-K1100-LT-Touring-S535-rear-wheel-rim-17in-/291458311339?epid=1267687031&hash=item43dc44e4ab:g:o1UAAOSwstxVQTXZ&vxp=mtr

ask um and they may have the front one as well?
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on June 24, 2017, 09:03:25 AM
Does it have to be a 3 spoke wheel?  If not, I have a Y spoke rear wheel that's in good shape. 

I'll let you have it for $85, and depending on where you are in New York I can deliver it or meet you someplace to save you the shipping. 
Title: Re: Wheel Straightening
Post by: Billk on August 08, 2017, 10:26:14 PM
The bike was totaled. I sent both wheels to Woody's in Denver Colorado, $200 a wheel plus shipping came out to about 600. Bought the bike back, at an unbelievable price, from the Insurance company. I'm back on the road. Thank you for the help and support. This is an believable site for information.


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