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Title: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: bmwpyro on February 09, 2017, 05:21:13 PM
https://youtu.be/f_TBvZLK5oY (https://youtu.be/f_TBvZLK5oY)

i guess at this pt. its no longer a brick since it lost the brick look...
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Euro Spec on February 09, 2017, 07:48:55 PM
Haha sounds like my garbage disposal with a whistle attached
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Euro Spec on February 09, 2017, 07:53:42 PM
A Smart CDI has a 0-60 time of 19.8 seconds and 45 horsepower, doesn't seem worth the effort of the swap
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on February 09, 2017, 08:53:35 PM
The real question is what's higher on the "real man" scale, a diesel or a v-twin? 
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: MaraudeRS on February 09, 2017, 09:06:53 PM
Whoa, this pretty cool. Imho a v-twin is manlier


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Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: The Dude on February 09, 2017, 11:10:59 PM
A V twin running across the frame is the most manly but there again,I'm a roughy.
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: motodude on February 10, 2017, 12:22:14 AM
Why not a v-twin diesel?
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Dennis de Vries on February 10, 2017, 03:28:03 AM
I wouldn't mind riding that. Wonder if and how he has gotten the gearing so that it can run decent highway speeds without over revving the engine, and i would probably ad a silencer to please my neighbours as i leave for work in the dead of night, but other than that, cool bike in my book!

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Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on February 10, 2017, 08:27:42 AM
Why not a v-twin diesel?

I was kind of thinking that too, but I'm not sure I would have enough testosterone... or a big enough beer gut for one of those.
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Scud on February 10, 2017, 03:45:41 PM
A V twin running across the frame is the most manly but there again,I'm a roughy.


 :2thumbup:


(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/timscudder/Scura/IMG_5698.jpg) (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/timscudder/media/Scura/IMG_5698.jpg.html)
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Scud on February 10, 2017, 04:00:25 PM
On a serious note - that's very cool. Imagine the ridiculous amount of torque you would have on the low end. And probably gets 70MPG because it's powering such a light vehicle.


Guilio Carcano, one of Moto Guzzi's earlier designers (responsible for legendary 500cc V8 engine) thought a diesel engine was important to the future of Moto Guzzi. New owners, Aprilia, don't seem to agree as Moto Guzzi is rolling out mostly retro-styled cruisery/standard bikes now. It seems to me that if anyone could pull off a diesel production motorcycle, it's be BMW. But with all the recent VW emission cheating, I don't know if anyone would want to try to enter the diesel market now.


Thanks for sharing that interesting project. Total labor of love by that guy.
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Laitch on February 10, 2017, 04:58:31 PM
. It seems to me that if anyone could pull off a diesel production motorcycle, it's be BMW. But with all the recent VW emission cheating, I don't know if anyone would want to try to enter the diesel market now.
The US military is deploying diesel KLRs. 96mpg at 55mph.
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Martin on February 10, 2017, 05:02:44 PM

Apparently there is a call for diesel production in cars is to be wound down and phased out. Apparently diesels while cleaner in some ways are dirtier in others especially particulates. And the Franken Brick would be cooler and more macho with a crank handle.  :hehehe
Regards Martin
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Chaos on February 10, 2017, 05:45:07 PM
A thumper diesel with only a kick starter would be manliest of all. 
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Scud on February 10, 2017, 06:54:35 PM
A thumper diesel with only a kick starter would be manliest of all.


Yeah - 650cc and 20:1 compression. That's manly for sure. I think I would only stop something like that on top of a hill...
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Dennis de Vries on February 11, 2017, 12:45:12 AM
Some Dutch guy did make a seeious effort to build a diesel motorcycle, as in start a serious factory, not just a one of home buid project. Sadly it never took off, i actually like how it looks and for a while saw one riding allmost daily arround my parts.
It had adventurebike styling and the same Smart triple diesel engine as the Frankenbrick in this topic.
Don't know why it didn't work. Maybe the world wasn't ready for a dieselbike, or maybe it was the CVT transmision people were affraid of.

https://youtu.be/8EcKF2A_PAA

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Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: F14CRAZY on February 11, 2017, 11:38:51 AM
A thumper diesel with only a kick starter would be manliest of all.

My dad had a high performance 1915cc Volkswagen flat 4 installed in a motoboxer frame in the '90s. No, it wasn't a trike. Pretty much had to stand on the kickstarter
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Martin on February 11, 2017, 04:03:52 PM

I often thought about putting a Subaru boxer into a boxer frame, thank god I never got around to it. At the time I had access to the engine, but no frame.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: billday on February 11, 2017, 07:54:35 PM
Some Dutch guy did make a seeious effort to build a diesel motorcycle, as in start a serious factory, not just a one of home buid project. Sadly it never took off, i actually like how it looks and for a while saw one riding allmost daily arround my parts.
It had adventurebike styling and the same Smart triple diesel engine as the Frankenbrick in this topic.
Don't know why it didn't work. Maybe the world wasn't ready for a dieselbike, or maybe it was the CVT transmision people were affraid of.

What the hell is with the music people put in these videos?

That first video up there made me miss Wmax. He would have written pages -- with diagrams -- about how you could do the same thing but much better. Where are you, Wmax?
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Chaos on February 11, 2017, 08:57:26 PM
this would be cool, don't think anyone has ever done a 180 degree 4 cylinder radial.  Best of boxers and V twins   :hehehe
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: bmwpyro on February 11, 2017, 09:19:40 PM
nice work Chaos!  :2thumbup:  for a minute, I thought it was real ...
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Vespa no more on February 12, 2017, 05:15:51 AM
Martin: Ref Subaru Boxer motor in K Bike


Check Youtube: Mighty Car Mods: Sleeper Beetle (best to watch the full length)


Check the results at the end - forget the power to weight ratios of a motorbike.


Regards


Guy
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Scud on February 12, 2017, 09:00:23 AM
Funny engine-edit. I need a 2.2 litre pushrod 4 cylinder motorcycle.


Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Martin on February 12, 2017, 11:53:19 PM

Thanks Vespa for the info on the Sub I will take a look but I'm afraid I'll get strange ideas a mate has an unused K75 frame. Do you know where I can get a cheap WRX engine? :nono
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Vespa no more on February 13, 2017, 05:54:08 AM

Buy the whole carBut of course you don't want any old WRX motor.
I wouldn't know the first thing about them.
But I'm sure the video should provide a few ideas.
Let me know what you think of it.


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Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Martin on February 13, 2017, 02:38:07 PM

Insane Vespa but my days of insanity are over, would not get the approval of the Honourable Minister for Finance and Recreation. In the 70's there used to be a Beetle with a mid engine Porsche engine in Vic and about 15 years ago there used to be a Kombi south of Bris, number plate read VWRX, went like the showers.


When I was 16 a mate and I built a mini bike frame around a 350 Jawa engine that another mate had semi totalled. Very bad welding very bad geometry, Harley sprung seat, hard tail, FJ column shift welded to what was left of the spline. I was the scourge of the Tullamarine freeway which was yet to be opened. It used to get serious speed wobbles at about 50 mph which you had to carefully ride through, top speed was unknown. Used to be chased by the road works crew in Land Rovers, they eventually gave up on me and just used to wave.
 
Did a few Frankensteins in my youth Jag 3.8 into a 32 Plymouth roadster, full house 179 into an FC a mate put a 318 into another FC. Don't expect to be doing any more unless son in laws start a worthwhile project. How about you doing a souped up Vespa apparently in the 60's a few Mods used to blow away a few of the Rockers on their Triumphs. It'll give you something to dream about.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: F14CRAZY on February 13, 2017, 09:46:14 PM
Might as well use a Subaru H6 then. You can roll up to Gold Wings and be like "that's cute"
Title: Re: franken brick ... diesel ?
Post by: Dennis de Vries on February 14, 2017, 01:30:53 AM
I thought they invented Boss Hosses as the ultimate mobile penis enlarger? [emoji12]

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