Post by: bmwpyro on December 02, 2016, 03:06:30 AM
bricks are addicting, at least to me it seems...
I was at costco gassing up my beat up pick up truck a few months back and in front of me was this really nice older style motorbike complete with hard side cases.
i was for a short short time interested in motorbikes when i was much younger so i was wondering what he was riding.
i couldnt see it from my vantage pt but as he was leaving, you can see the bmw logo on the gas tank...
it has piqued my interest ever since.
i didnt follow up on that for a few months as i am also vw bus afflicted but then as i read through the forums,
one of the members had a motorbike that reminded me of that day at the gas station. which started my poking around.
i looked at the styles that resembled what i saw and found it on the search engines which led me to the K bikes.
there is just a plethora of info on these bikes. i feel like i own one already.
i never rode a bike before. a 50cc scooter yes. but that never requires shifting... so its not the same.
i always thought motorbikes are dangerous to ride...
but my in laws recently also got their license and seems to be enjoying themselves immensely.
so i figure why not give it a try. so i enrolled myself in the basic riding class. to be taken in a few weeks. . i hope i pass.
i'm not after speed anyway. those days are in the past. i have more leisurely and practical pursuits.
i hope i pass bec i've been looking for a K bike to save... found myself a 85 K100 RS thats been garaged for 12 yrs and im hoping i will be the new owner by tomm.
i just hope its not a expensive proposition to fix... i'm not afraid of mechanical issues. i have been wrenching 6 yrs now on my own cars and trucks.
i'm also a tool afficionado. i probably have literally a ton or more of tools at home. (my wife rolls her eyes)
the K100 might be a mite too much for a beginner like me i'm aware. but i hope to slowly grow into the art of riding.
looking forward, i hope to get to know some folks here and also enjoy the information that lies herein... and also hopefully... contribute in someway in the future.
Sincerely,
CK
Post by: Laitch on December 02, 2016, 07:52:27 AM
A twelve year old, garage-stored K-bike might be a nest of problems or an enjoyable, relatively low-cost restoration project. That is dependent on whether the bike has 12-year old fuel in its system that has been degrading all its rubber parts, and whether it was a nest for vermin that have been feasting on its wiring. How much it was ridden before it was stored might also have a bearing on restoration potential. Do not attempt to start it with old fuel in its system because that potentially pumps debris throughout the system and raises restoration cost. If it has clean fuel, be sure the battery used to start it is fully charged or damage to the starter relay might occur.
K-bike engines are far removed from early VW boxers, as you might have gathered from your reading. The Airheads from the 70s and early 80s are somewhat similar to the VW boxers. I've found my K75 as reliable as I could want. Far more reliable than my VWs ever were. :giggles When I purchased mine, it had been ridden often and stored in garages by the previous owners. A K-bike that has been well-ridden and regularly maintained is a strong runner and durable.
Get the VIN, run it through a VIN checker and determine when it was made. Visit the Technical Library here for a look in its Card Catalog and its Classic K-bike.com sections for overviews of the quirks and maintenance techniques of these bikes.
Post by: jakgieger on December 02, 2016, 08:01:17 AM
Post by: Chaos on December 02, 2016, 08:38:47 AM
Post by: Laitch on December 02, 2016, 08:46:26 AM
Figure you're going to drop it at least once.:2thumbup: Lifting it from the ground is part of an effective quadriceps/upper-body building regimen.
What are your in-laws riding, CK?
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on December 02, 2016, 10:40:09 AM
These bikes are pretty easy to work on, and once you have the storage issues sorted it's just a matter of annual maintenance which is mostly fluid changes. There isn't much need for tools beyond the kit that comes with the bike. A set of metric sockets, ball-end Allen wrenches and a couple torque wrenches will get most jobs done.
Be ready to get new tires and a battery. Shinko makes very good tires and I have found Scorpion AGM batteries to be excellent and cost effective. One of the best sources for parts is eBay. There are also several bike breakers in SoCal where you should be able to cop cheap used parts. Safari Cycles comes to mind as they have a lot of used engines on eBay.
It's good you're taking a rider's course. Learn to ride before you develop any bad habits. As Laitch mentioned, they're heavy and somewhat clumsy at low speed, but some of the nicest machines when rolling down the road. Make sure your bike has a good side-stand. I always use mine before I get off. Don't ask me how I learned to do that.
Hope you have a big garage, as one of these fine beasts is almost never enough. Last, we love bike pictures. Don't wait to post yours.
Post by: Martin on December 02, 2016, 12:42:07 PM
Welcome to the asylum from the land of OZ. To get the most out of the inmates when posting questions, supply as much information as possible on what you have done, replaced etc. Extra brownie points will be accrued for posting videos, pictures and sound recordings which the inmates really relish.
Regards Martin.
Post by: K1300S on December 02, 2016, 12:50:27 PM
Welcome to the asylum from the land of OZ. To get the most out of the inmates when posting questions, supply as much information as possible on what you have done, replaced etc. Extra brownie points will be accrued for posting videos, pictures and sound recordings which the inmates really relish.
Regards Martin.
and many extra brownie points for bumping an old thread on a topic you are trying to find info on...shows you did some homework first.
Post by: Laitch on December 02, 2016, 12:54:56 PM
Extra brownie points will be accrued for posting videos, pictures and sound recordings which the inmates really relish.The brownie points can be redeemed for valuable moments of psychological counseling and compassionate listening. Be mindful though that Martin will be 18 hours ahead of you and 6 hours behind you at the same time so consider phrasing all inquires to him in the pluperfect tense.and many extra brownie points for bumping an old thread on a topic you are trying to find info on...shows you did some homework first.
Post by: Martin on December 02, 2016, 01:45:37 PM
Be aware that psychological counseling will be given by inmates who in the vernacular are totally certified as absolute fruit loops. And that by using this site you are submitting yourself to self imposed psychological damage.
Regards the only sane person on this site, which I have verified by talking to all of me and we concur.
Post by: Laitch on December 02, 2016, 01:58:53 PM
. . . which I have verified by talking to all of me and we concur.I couldn't agree more, which is a shame because you and yourself could use some more affirmation. Consider this it, informally.
Post by: Filmcamera on December 02, 2016, 02:05:05 PM
Post by: Martin on December 02, 2016, 02:10:37 PM
I've just had a group discussion with myself and we have come to the conclusion that between us we have all the affirmation needed.
So say all of me.
Post by: jakgieger on December 02, 2016, 06:35:21 PM
Post by: bmwpyro on December 03, 2016, 03:37:03 AM
I didnt expect quite a response and i [ should i say we? to mean me, I and myself :) ] appreciate it!
Thank you for all the advice! before anything tho. first, let me give you an update.
i have been to see the bike and its not really in any good condition. i took some pics...
the owner lives near the coast and does not have a garage. he kept the bike in the backyard, under tarps but exposed nonetheless. oxidation/rust is evident everywhere, the cylinder cover, rusted hex nuts, rotten rubber. the seat is quite brittle and cracks under any pressure put upon it. the radiator grille is rusted but seems to be still solid. there is a crack front turn signal, some scratches, all the logos are delaminating.
the tank is empty but still smells of gas. the rubber to what i think is the gas regulator is rotten and has a big hole so for sure all the gas has escaped. it did not have any battery installed. Before i left, i wanted to see if the engine will at least turn over so we tried starting it (unfortunate that may be). connecting to the battery terminals could only get it to click when u press the start button. clamping the jumper negative on the ground and the body, we were able to turn the starter solidly. but i think even the wires (at least the ones that are not wrapped, like the ground wire) have oxidized.
i promised to respond to him tomorrow morning as there are others that are wanting the bike. i'm 95% yes on the bike.
yes it will need a lot of work... that i can do.
the 5% is just because i cant comprehend how much it will cost money wise to bring it to working condition.
he wants less than 1k for it. which i think is a good base to start. i already have upgrades to it i'm lining up :D
it only has 15k mi on the odometer. it was running the last time he stored it.
(edited) i forgot to add that the tires are 18 yrs old at least...
now, to answer some of the questions...
Laitch, will definitely check the VIN. it does have a pink slip. so im not too worried. i wanted a bike i can wrench and ride. this seems to be it :)
also, i should have been more specific. my wife's younger brother by 2 yrs and his wife are riding 2013 Yamahas Vstars and Virago i believe. 950cc and 750cc i think.
Jack. i think i see what you meant about steel screws in aluminum. looking at the pictures, can you foretell what will happen? luckily mice are not involved!
Chaos. Thank you and apologies, i use to own a bus. but not at the moment and i really want one but no room in the garage at the moment. i have other patients waiting in the sidelines as well :D
Gryphon, I'm in the North San Gabriel valley area. The Brick is near Long Beach and as u can see in the picture... :(
i have tools and im not afraid to use. in fact, tool gathering is another affliction. i find reasons to get more... :)
the side stands look functional but i think i will replace the mains with the solid ones sometime down the road.
tbh, my current issue is in not having a garage. i'm suppose to build one in a few months tho. in the meantime i will house it in a nice sunproof tent... :D
Martin, I hope these pictures are a good start :) i have learn much reading many forums that does rebuilds. all are long projects. i just hope the funds are not prohibitive that my better half may ask me to do the unthinkable...
mlytle, if bumping old threads are ok. then if a question does come up. i will be sure to bump!
as to being part of the asylum. i already feel like i belong... even before i joined. as an acolyte, i humbly bow before the Masters of the Brick.
i must confess in advance tho. i may have a wierd sense of humor as my kids tell me. no one gets it, so if that happens. humbly pls let me know.
Sincerely,
CK
Post by: Martin on December 03, 2016, 05:07:13 AM
I've seen worse Bricks restored, it comes down to cost in part's and labour. Sometimes it is better to wait for a more viable project, and good Bricks at a reasonable price do come up. I would advise you to spend a bit of time pricing the obvious things you can see, then double it at least if not quadruple it. Only you can decide whether you wish to go ahead, if you are doing it to make money I doubt that you will even come out even. If you are doing for the love of it you will come out ahead. There is a wealth of knowledge to be gained on this site, if you can put up with the odd bits of lunacy put forward by some of the inmates.
Good luck from all of me.
Post by: Laitch on December 03, 2016, 07:01:09 AM
It will be costly and you'll have forgotten what you learned at the MSF course by the time it's roadworthy. Start with something in much better condition. If you can't control your K-buying impulse, buy this one for a song if you can—surely no more than $300—take it completely apart, learn to test its electronic components and measure its mechanical ones, clean up what is salvageable then sell off what you can here and elsewhere.
Find a clean well-tended K75 with 60K miles on it, or buy a VStrom 650. They are plenty large enough—perhaps too large for your experience unless you have innate talent. Then go riding.
Post by: jakgieger on December 03, 2016, 09:09:57 AM
Laitch has it right. This appears to be a donor bike.
Post by: jaxon on December 03, 2016, 11:02:18 AM
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on December 03, 2016, 11:06:32 AM
What you have is pretty close to a parts bike. If you break it down and sell off major parts after doing some cleaning you might get your $1000 purchase price back, but you aren't going to quickly make a lot of money. The used parts market for these bikes is pretty close to saturated right now what with breakers and guys doing cafe conversions.
The corrosion from exposure to salt air is going to make the electrical system a nightmare of bad connections, not to mention what might be hiding in the engine control and ignition modules. There are going to be lots of seized fasteners. The frame will need to be completely stripped and repainted. There is a lot of work to be done on this bike, and the chances are that you will become frustrated and lose interest after sinking a bunch of money and time and still not having a ride-able bike.
My guess is that the cost of restoring this bike is going to be more than the price of a nice brick with 50,000 miles on it. It doesn't take long to spend a $1000 on a restoration.
My advice is to look for a K75, maybe the S model unless you plan to cafe it in which case a K75RT would be a better choice. Good examples can be found everyday for a bit more than $2000. A bike in this range can be rode almost immediately with basic maintenance of fluid changes and a spline lube.
On the other hand, if you are champing at the bit to spend the next 6 months or more disassembling, cleaning, and replacing parts of the bike before you can take it out then this could be the bike for you...if you can get it for less than $500. This can be a good project since these bikes do respond well to large amounts of TLC and you will have a great deal of pride of ownership after the restore. You will have the opportunity to become intimately familiar with the workings of these great machines and become hooked for life. You'll acquire a potentially valuable skill set of rust and aluminum corrosion removal, painting, electrical troubleshooting, broken screw removal and sourcing inexpensive motorcycle parts.
Bottom line, I don't want to scare you off, just be aware that this bike could be a pretty large project.
Post by: Laitch on December 03, 2016, 11:23:52 AM
Bottom line, I don't want to scare you off, just be aware that this bike could be a pretty large project.Just for the record, I'm unabashedly trying to scare you off this concept piece of oxidized art.
The only upside to this purchase would be you're less likely to injure yourself with it because it's doubtful you'll ever make it roadworthy enough to ride and still have money enough left over to put fuel in it.
Post by: Elipten on December 03, 2016, 12:05:28 PM
Time is on your side, look for s better bike as they are out there.
I would not touch that bike as easily thousand of dollars in parts and hundreds of hours of work
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Post by: bmwpyro on December 03, 2016, 02:26:37 PM
i'm still naively 99.9 % on this bike... sigh. he did price it close to 500.
i did just read about 50 pages worth of stainless on aluminum frustration... and i'm still 99.9 % on this bike. (my wife hates it too when im like this)
even my usual decision making tool of flipping the coin is against me! LOL!
part of it is the excitement of something new... and the challenge of it...
i called my machinist friend and he tells me to buy a honda instead. cheap and plenty he said. but after my wrenching wrecks with civics. i'm a bit honda averse...
OTOH, as a means of redirecting my desire.... would this one make better sense? https://goo.gl/fIFAFU (https://goo.gl/fIFAFU) i just hope its still available...
i'm planning to change the handlebar to a T in any case. i just cant find a K75 T in the area and i'm looking at a 300+mi radius.
i have to decide within the hour for the sellers sake... dont want to keep him hanging.
Sincerely,
CK
Post by: MaraudeRS on December 03, 2016, 02:56:36 PM
Good luck with your decision making!
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Post by: Martin on December 03, 2016, 03:11:51 PM
The K75S (Not RS) that you posted is a much better option. The K75 in the opinion of a lot of brick riders is the pinnacle of BMW design and function. Ridden and taken care of extremely high mileages are possible 500,000 K's in North Queensland, 800,000 K's in Europe. Looking over your pictures this morning I think you can more than double Eliptens estimate. Listen to the combined wisdom of the inmates and look elsewhere. This bike is a parts bike and would be extremely costly in the long run to restore. Even as a project bike there are better ones out there. Ultimately though it is your choice.
Good luck regards Martin.
Post by: Laitch on December 03, 2016, 03:35:02 PM
OTOH, as a means of redirecting my desire.... would this one make better sense?Better sense than buying rusted junk? Is this an episode of Black Mirror?
As Martin has indicated, there is no model K750RS. Both you and the seller should already know that. Why doesn't the seller know what he's selling? Why haven't you researched what you're buying?
To paraphrase the words of that outstanding citizen of the Great State of California, Harry Callahan:
Feeling lucky? Well, are you?
Recall how that turned out? :giggles Face it, pyro. You've even lost a coin toss—with yourself, no less—involving this purchase. :hehehe
Take a break is what I'd do.
Post by: Elipten on December 03, 2016, 06:24:12 PM
Hi miles on the K75. Keep looking
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Post by: jakgieger on December 03, 2016, 06:43:16 PM
I cannot presume to know your motivations/reasoning, just be sure you are using some! Good luck :bmwsmile
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on December 03, 2016, 10:13:14 PM
http://www.searchcraigslist.org/
Keep an eye out on Craig's list. While there are none listed right now, the Bay area usually has several K bikes listed at any given time. I recall as recently as last October a listing for a green K75S that was in daily use and looked like you could ride it home with an asking price of only $1800.
If you are looking for an older "vintage" or "classic" bike, BMW is probably one of the best brands to consider. You can go to a BMW dealer, and still get a lot of the important parts for bikes that were built back in the '60's. Try that with a Japanese bike. It's nice to know that between eBay and BMW I can still get almost anything I need for my 25+ year old bikes.
Don't be in a hurry. Patience and diligence will reward you with a great find. You are in a good part of the country to find a nice BMW.
Post by: jakgieger on December 03, 2016, 10:25:41 PM
Post by: Laitch on December 03, 2016, 10:48:53 PM
This (http://slo.craigslist.org/mcy/5870233975.html) is a clone of my bike...help a veteran in the process!One last question, bmwpyro, before I leave you to pilot the juggernaut of your will. What's your inseam measurement?
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on December 03, 2016, 10:56:28 PM
This (http://slo.craigslist.org/mcy/5870233975.html) is a clone of my bike...help a veteran in the process!
There is your bike! The SE version of the RS is probably the only brick that will appreciate in value over the years. At that price with those miles I would consider it a very decent deal. Wish I lived closer, I would be all over it.
Post by: bmwpyro on December 04, 2016, 12:10:05 AM
So... now i got a parts bike. i was about to say no. but then he lowered the price more.. and i caved... :dunno2: :yes :viivi
someday the coin will tell me i told you so. but i hope not to give it a chance...
i dont think i will be able to ride this particular brick anytime soon (months? years?). it will take time among my other afflictions to take steps to make it live again.
i will create a new post for that build. might be a while tho. we will see.
but in the meantime. i still need a bike to ride. Laitch is correct, this one i will chalk up to personal skills development. but i still need a bike to continue from the MSF.
so on with the search.
MarauderRS, I'm think I'm almost similar in case with you. or so i hope with the low mileage, i'm hoping the innards faired better than the external. we will see.
Martin. i will continue to look for a K75. i thought they were lighter than K100 but i checked. just a diff of 40lbs?
Laitch, what is black mirror? never heard of it. i googled but i guess i have to check it out sometime. but i dont have time to watch TV much lately (last few years).
that ad is wierd. yes. but i checked the pics and he has a 75S on the front. not going by his ad... not sure if thats the normal place for that 75S tho
inseam, i'm not sure. i think 32. but when i buy pants i get either 32 or 33. i measured close to 32 tho.
Elipten, I would like a K75 but I'm not sure i want to pay that much. but i dont know how to appreciate the value of the bike as yet.
jackgeiger, if a better deal came up. i can try to sell the bike or part it out. altho i do enjoy learning new things. and at the final price. it was cheap enough to do so.
i feel like a child again when i was taking thing apart to see how they work... youtube just is not enough. i need to touch it...
i do like that CL suggestion. lovely detail and color. bright. its just that i wish the price was a little less. i can do slow build but i cant spend that much at once.
TMGryphon, yes. i like the 85-95 K bike look. i'm really unsure why. specially with the cases. not much into the sport thing. i do love to camp.
so you think i should get that SE unit like the one jack has? after today. i might have to wait til end of month...
if i can only win the lotto. i dont need to win big. just enough for all my family & afflictions...
jackgeiger and TMgryphon, I do love the way your bikes look on the left handside pics you have.
lastly, is responding this way ok? or do i have to put a @ sign before the name?
Thank You!
CK
Post by: Chaos on December 04, 2016, 01:38:19 AM
lastly, is responding this way ok? or do i have to put a @ sign before the name?
Thank You!
CK
No @ needed. I don't think I've ever seen anyone respond individually to each post quite like this....makes us feel special :yes
Ya know, I sort of like your weather beaten bike. It hasn't been chopped and cafe'd, a big plus, and all the surface corrosion is just cosmetic. I'd want to get it running, if that's dooable then go through the brakes and all that stuff. Maybe randomly spray different color primer on it and a couple stick on bullet holes. K rat bikes might be the next hot hipster fad!
Post by: Scud on December 04, 2016, 10:24:01 AM
Here's what I paid for the three K75s:
$1,400 for a 1992 with 40,000 miles, slightly weathered but fully operational (except ABS) - this is the "keeper"
$300 for a 1991 with 180,000 miles in good cosmetic condition (garaged) but lots of mechanical problems - the is the "donor"
$500 for another 1991 with 75,000 miles. The PO couldn't get it running and it had an Ohlins shock. The bike has a few other problems; my plan is to fix and re-sell. So this one is the the "flipper"
If you want to come down and take a look at the bikes let me know. I got the "flipper" running already and it would make an easy project - I'd also be happy to entertain selling it almost-as-is (less Ohlins) if that interests you. I also have the extra parts needed to bring this bike up to snuff.
Post by: bmwpyro on December 04, 2016, 07:48:36 PM
No @ needed. I don't think I've ever seen anyone respond individually to each post quite like this....makes us feel special :yes
Good!
Ya know, I sort of like your weather beaten bike. It hasn't been chopped and cafe'd, a big plus, and all the surface corrosion is just cosmetic. I'd want to get it running, if that's dooable then go through the brakes and all that stuff. Maybe randomly spray different color primer on it and a couple stick on bullet holes. K rat bikes might be the next hot hipster fad!
LOL. it might end up that way. learning to paint is in the list. a few bullet hole sticker can cover up the mistakes :)
Post by: bmwpyro on December 04, 2016, 07:56:42 PM
Here's what I paid for the three K75s:
$1,400 for a 1992 with 40,000 miles, slightly weathered but fully operational (except ABS) - this is the "keeper"
$300 for a 1991 with 180,000 miles in good cosmetic condition (garaged) but lots of mechanical problems - the is the "donor"
$500 for another 1991 with 75,000 miles. The PO couldn't get it running and it had an Ohlins shock. The bike has a few other problems; my plan is to fix and re-sell. So this one is the the "flipper"
If you want to come down and take a look at the bikes let me know. I got the "flipper" running already and it would make an easy project - I'd also be happy to entertain selling it almost-as-is (less Ohlins) if that interests you. I also have the extra parts needed to bring this bike up to snuff.
Sure Scud! it really boils down to how much and the overall functionality and "presentation". do you have a pic? what does it come with?
I'm about 90mi from you. on the rare days im not doing anything. i'd love a reason to go just drive...
Thank You
CK
Post by: Scud on December 04, 2016, 08:33:20 PM
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/timscudder/1992%20K75s/IMG_5442.jpg) (http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/timscudder/media/1992%20K75s/IMG_5442.jpg.html)
I found that the fuel pump vibration damper had disintegrated in the tank. I put the tank from my Blue bike on and cleaned the injectors and installed fresh spark plugs - fired right up and rode nicely. So it just needs the tank cleaned and serviced (fuel filter, new damper, etc. - pretty easy job). It's complete and in good shape. I would put a near-new progressive shock on it (the one that's currently on my blue one). There are racks, but no bags. There are a couple broken bits, but I have spares. It's leaking oil at the bottom - I have not torn into it yet, but I think it might be as simple as an O-ring. The rear rack was broken - I found a used one and had it powdercoated gloss black.
I'll send you a private message with my e-mail and phone number.
Post by: bmwpyro on December 04, 2016, 08:46:01 PM
The front brakes are just not working. the right handle lever just flops. the brake tank is just full of dried black plastic-like crud.
there is good fluid in the brake caliper tho. but the line to the brake is dry dry dry.
i was trying to take it down the ramp but without the front brakes i was afraid i would have no way to stop it from rolling away... so i was hoping for a quick fix... nope.
rear brakes works. but too impossibly dangerous to handle with a rolling bike...
in the end, my wife suggested i dig holes for the rear wheels in our back yard so i could lower the tailgate height. great idea!
with that i was able to bring the tailgate maybe 12" down. but 18+" to go. still dangerous.
my machinist friend yesterday suggested using a cherry picker. which i thought too high till i dug the holes,
i had to get it from my MIL's house (where we use to live, it still lives there, the picker).
and with some effort, straps and trying to be safe. that did the trick.
i forgot to take a pic of it hanging...
next. i need a shelter for it ...
Post by: Chaos on December 04, 2016, 09:00:26 PM
Post by: bmwpyro on December 04, 2016, 09:21:10 PM
leave it in 1st and use the clutch as a brake? Or that not working either?
oh yes, Thank You for the reminder, we did try that. but i felt it was still not safe as there is not a good foothold among other things.
i was at the rear trying to stabilize it and my wife, who doesnt ride either was at the front steering it. it was kinda hard to steer. might need grease there.
she doesnt know about the clutch and wouldnt touch it since she doesnt know it... cant have her at the back end so we ended up with the picker...
CK
Post by: Scud on December 04, 2016, 09:49:53 PM
Post by: jakgieger on December 04, 2016, 10:29:17 PM
It's leaking oil at the bottom - I have not torn into it yet, but I think it might be as simple as an O-ring.
If you haven't had the belly pan off, it could be as simple as the oil sight glass...
Post by: Laitch on December 05, 2016, 08:38:03 AM
Well, better safe than sorry. Good job being cautious as you don't want to end up under a "ton of bricks." If you come down next weekend, I can also teach you how to load/unload a bike.Approximately $70-one way rental from Carlsbad to Pasadena for a Uhaul heavy duty motorcycle trailer with a dedicated holder for the front wheel, tie-down rings and a broad, wide ramp for loading and unloading. Pick it up in Carlsbad, drop it off in Pasadena.
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Post by: jakgieger on December 05, 2016, 09:59:23 AM
Approximately $70-one way rental from Carlsbad to Pasadena for a Uhaul heavy duty motorcycle trailer
Just when the party at the asylum gets rocking, somebody always gotta inject the voice of reason! :eek:
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on December 05, 2016, 02:21:28 PM
Post by: Martin on December 05, 2016, 03:50:56 PM
Damn rational adults...On this site where do you find a rational adult? :dunno
Post by: Scud on December 05, 2016, 04:14:21 PM
If you haven't had the belly pan off, it could be as simple as the oil sight glass...
Well, it looks like CK (the OP) might come take a look this weekend. I already removed and degreased the belly pan - but have not degreased the engine yet. I'll do that and re-torque everything I can get to - it's a passive leak (continues to leak while sitting cold).
Speaking of rational adults, for the cost of a trailer rental you can be the owner of a proper ramp and straps. Then you just need a suitable step to get into and out of a truck while using the ramp. The K100 could have been backed down the ramp with a slow-release pulley secured to the front of the truck-bed and a strap around the forks. However, lowering the tailgate is always a good idea - I position the truck's rear tires in a gutter or low spot whenever possible. But I gotta start carrying a shovel and hoist. :clap:
When your rational self has secured a truck and a ramp, your irrational self can justify bringing home all sorts of poor, neglected motorcycles that need some love...
Post by: Laitch on December 05, 2016, 04:25:19 PM
When your rational self has secured a truck and a ramp, your irrational self can justify bringing home all sorts of poor, neglected motorcycles that need some love...In this case, it could be just the equipment needed for his burgeoning scrapyard and oil reclamation business. :giggles
Post by: jakgieger on December 05, 2016, 09:10:58 PM
Post by: bmwpyro on December 06, 2016, 12:59:51 AM
Well, it looks like CK (the OP) might come take a look this weekend.
yes, schedule looks clear as of now. i dont expect any changes but since i work in I.T. that could change instantly. fingers crossed. i can be there around 10.
Speaking of rational adults, for the cost of a trailer rental you can be the owner of a proper ramp and straps.
When your rational self has secured a truck and a ramp, your irrational self can justify bringing home all sorts of poor, neglected motorcycles that need some love...
motorcycles is just one in the list of stuff i want to save :hehehe i told my wife we need to move to a bigger lot...
I was thinking of a ramp and a come-along or a hand winch. but it still needs someone to keep the heavy bike upright.
i do have a low riding 10x5 trailer. unfortunately. it has become storage for my wifes "stuff" at the moment (shh. she also collects stuff but dont let anyone know.)
In this case, it could be just the equipment needed for his burgeoning scrapyard and oil reclamation business. :giggles
"but they just magically appear! honest!" :dunno
I just realized today. can you ride a bike with a helmet while wearing glasses? or is there a prescription glass you can add to the helmet?
also will need to start getting some simple and relatively inexpensive riding gear, the riding school requires it... what does one recommend for boots and jacket at a minimum? there is just too many choices and not all of them look like they do any protection.... so far i have no gear at all...
looking for something i can wear going to and at work also?
Thank you!
Post by: jakgieger on December 06, 2016, 08:05:29 AM
Post by: Laitch on December 06, 2016, 08:11:49 AM
I just realized today. can you ride a bike with a helmet while wearing glasses? or is there a prescription glass you can add to the helmet?No.
Post by: Chaos on December 06, 2016, 08:32:39 AM
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on December 06, 2016, 10:21:36 AM
Buying gear online is a crap shoot at best. Almost no one sizes their stuff like the clothes you wear everyday, and you need to be able to wear it over your street clothes. The money you save shopping on line is lost with return postage for stuff that doesn't fit. Of the places I have dealt with on line LeatherUp is the worst for confusing sizing. I get my stuff on Craig's list where I can go and see the stuff and try it on before I buy.
Post by: Filmcamera on December 06, 2016, 10:24:48 AM
Post by: Chaos on December 06, 2016, 10:28:20 AM
I went to one of the few brick and mortar bike gear shops here in CR, tried on a bunch of jackets etc, found the one I wanted at the right size and then ordered it online and saved a fortune - best of both worlds!
I do that but feel guilty afterwards
Post by: Filmcamera on December 06, 2016, 10:30:26 AM
Post by: Chaos on December 06, 2016, 10:47:35 AM
Post by: bmwpyro on December 06, 2016, 02:12:32 PM
I'm on CL too much (80% of what i have is from CL, best way to stretch the dollar) & I'll check out the other site. Thank you!
what im struggling with is what brand of gear to buy... i guess i will need to sample and find out...
Laitch, Chaos, Thank You, can you tell me why does one need leather in particular for bike riding? as second skin in case of scrapes?
TMGryphon, ah so the gear i get i should get to go over my usual street clothes. ok. so i need to upsize except the shoes then...
whats a good brand of helmet?
same here... i do a lot of CL shopping so i can see the item first and determine if i want it or not... most of the time its good.
Thank you
Filmcamera Thank You. i do that with some gear too :yes (check at store and buy online)
as for shoes. should i get ankle or should i get higher than ankle boots?
Post by: Laitch on December 06, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Post by: bmwpyro on December 06, 2016, 04:35:55 PM
Are people having trouble accessing Google west of the Divide? It seems to be working ok in Vermont.
seems fine to me...
Post by: M.Brane on December 06, 2016, 06:50:23 PM
As for fit you'll have to try on some different stuff to get an idea how it runs. Dainese fits me really good. Alpinestars not so much. Both are good quality.
The house brand stuff at Cycle Gear is decent quality for the price.
Post by: Scud on December 06, 2016, 07:46:57 PM
as for shoes. should i get ankle or should i get higher than ankle boots?
I suggest that you get the most protective, higher boots. You mentioned earlier wanting to wear boot to work - and while at work. I leave a pair of comfortable shoes at work - and take off my boots when I get there.
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on December 06, 2016, 08:59:50 PM
Post by: M.Brane on December 06, 2016, 10:33:28 PM
This is why I have several thousand dollars invested in my riding gear alone. Bikes, and riding gear can be replaced.
Post by: Laitch on December 07, 2016, 07:59:32 AM
Bikes, and riding gear can be replaced.To be fair, M.Brane, limbs can be replaced, too. It's all about priorities.
Post by: M.Brane on December 07, 2016, 09:10:33 AM
I know someone who has had a couple limbs "replaced". I'd rather keep my originals.
Post by: Chaos on December 07, 2016, 10:03:15 AM
Post by: jakgieger on December 07, 2016, 10:21:18 AM
Few people start out with thousands of dollars of riding gear.
Yes, BUT, we all wind up there eventually :hehehe ! Why not get started early :clap: .
Post by: Chaos on December 07, 2016, 10:47:31 AM
Why not get started early :clap: .
You might wind up looking like a dork and the google car will be there to record it :hehehe :hehehe :hehehe :hehehe (granted, an intact dork) :yes
Post by: Laitch on December 07, 2016, 01:15:21 PM
I know someone who has had a couple limbs "replaced". I'd rather keep my originals.The replacements come with warrantees. That's a bonus anyway.
Post by: jakgieger on December 07, 2016, 01:40:39 PM
You might wind up looking like a dork and the google car will be there to record it :hehehe :hehehe :hehehe :hehehe (granted, an intact dork) :yes
:hehehe There's no fool like an old fool...take off the helmet and lets see :popcorm
Post by: Laitch on December 07, 2016, 02:07:46 PM
You might wind up looking like a dork and the google car will be there to record it :hehehe :hehehe :hehehe :hehehe (granted, an intact dork) :yesI think he dumped it at a standstill while tweeting.
Anyway, I've got one of these. It's got 23 zippers. I put Forcefield armor in it. Please note the built-in, handy houseplant watering system.
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Post by: Chaos on December 07, 2016, 02:56:59 PM
Post by: bmwpyro on December 07, 2016, 03:18:13 PM
there is so many choices that its hard to make a decision. specially when the finance is not so obliging.
High boots, wiki has several different types of high boots... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_boot
racing, touring, engineer, police, harness... its worse than ordering coffee at starbucks. :mbird
jackets. i have no preference but the Bmw club and motorrad jackets and look nice. as long as they have protection.
still reading on that topic... i like pockets.
as to weather condition that i will be riding in, it will be mostly around LA. hot and cold weather. no snow. maybe the 2 or bigbear hwy sometimes to camp. i dont see riding beyond that... yet...
Laitch, which forcefield armor do you mean? i looked up the website there are like 40 choices :D not sure which you meant...
M.Brane, Jack, i'll probably end up with spending thousands of dollars. but i hope not... yes. i hate any western medical torture procedure. i hope i never have the opportunity to try it.
still reading and learning. Thank you!
Post by: bmwpyro on December 11, 2016, 01:37:15 AM
i just thought of something the other day... how does one secure a K bike from being stolen?
i went through some threads but it seems that the consensus is that its too old that no one really wants one?
just wondering if that is it or i should be concerned about security?
for example, does anyone use the steering lock? or is there a better alternative?
Thank You
Post by: Martin on December 11, 2016, 02:20:28 AM
I have a battery isolator switch and an attack trained Koala named Bruce in the top box. But due to the fact they are all out stealing Harleys he has yet to see action. :dunno
Regards Martin.
Post by: Scud on December 11, 2016, 02:22:37 AM
Seriously, I use the steering lock at work. Anti-theft is the same for any motorcycle - you can use cables, disc-locks, etc. However, I think the theft of a 20-year old BMW is pretty low risk. I regularly leave mine at San Diego, Orange County, and Los Angeles airports - using nothing but the steering lock and a cover. I leave all my gear in the saddle bags, but I do lock the bags. I'm more worried about my gear being stolen than the bike.
Post by: Martin on December 11, 2016, 02:49:46 AM
As with Scud more likely to have gear stolen, I cable lock my helmet to the forks with my helmet sitting on the mirror, lock my tragkorbs and top box to the bike. I do have a disc lock with a alarm which I attach to the helmet and occasionally use. Ten or more years ago when there were more Bricks around side covers used to disappear. Whether this was due to owners leaving off the "C" retaining clips off the tank or actual thefts I don't know, I've never lost any. I even have a GPS on my bike that would be very easy to steal but it has never been tampered with. I do occasionally find my kill switch has been turned off, could be a joker. However there are some places I would not park my bike, and places where if you do feel a bit insecure you can find a security camera that will cover your bike. There are also battery powered GPS location devices that are pretty cheap and you can track your bikes location.
Regards Martin.
Post by: bmwpyro on December 11, 2016, 03:51:43 AM
I will check out the cables, disc lock and GPS devices.
@Martin, I'm trying to imagine how you use a disc lock on the helmet tho...
also, the reason i ask is because i see the steering lock like this... its kinda of sunk in... but fork isnt locked...
i have started soaking it in old ATF to loosen it up for later repair.
Post by: Martin on December 11, 2016, 04:48:36 AM
I've got a full face helmet with "D" straps. With the helmet sitting on my mirror I can either loop the cable around the fork and poke the pin from the cable lock through the "D" shackle and into the lock. Or around the fork and through the visor opening into the lock. The Brick does have a helmet lock incorporated into the seat lock, but it can be hard to attach a helmet to unless you have a short bit of chain to run through the "D" shackle or visor opening. It also has a disadvantage that some scumbags find it the appropriate height to use as a toilet, :yow it has happened to one mate of mine a couple of times. Although I had never even previously heard of that, after he warned me I now put it on the mirror.
Regards Martin.
Post by: Elipten on December 11, 2016, 09:58:25 AM
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Post by: Scud on December 11, 2016, 10:14:28 AM
Sometimes I take a cable lock to the airport - put my helmet on the seat and run the cable through the helmet and the rear wheel. I usually also bring a motorcycle cover.
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on December 11, 2016, 10:20:10 AM
First, it conceals what is parked there from anyone who may have nefarious ambitions. A covered bike on it's centerstand is not likely to attract as much attention as some shiny pile of chrome. Then too, that centerstand poking out seems to imply "geezer bike" in the minds of the younger folks I know, the folks most likely to be "borrowing" your bike. Also, who wants to bother pulling the cover off just to see if the bike under it worth stealing?
Second, the cover makes it very difficult to plan a theft. You can't just casually walk around the bike seeing what would be involved in unlocking and getting it started. Just the act of pulling the cover off is going to attract unwanted attention to the potential thief. Even if they do pull the cover off, what do they do with? Are they going to spend the time to fold it up, or are they just going to throw it on the ground? Either way, if there is anyone in the area, the perp is going to find either alternative undesirable.
Post by: Martin on December 11, 2016, 10:46:59 AM
Alarmed disc lock through the one "D" ring on the helmet, cable lock through the other "D" ring.
Regards Martin.
Post by: Scud on December 11, 2016, 10:58:34 AM
A lot of stolen bikes get parted out - and the serialized parts (frame and block) destroyed or discarded. There is only a very small market for used Moto Guzzi parts - I think it's similar for the bricks. So... the theft deterrent is sticking out of the frame - but in the case of bricks, it's the valve cover and crank cover.
Centerstand is a geezer-bike. That's funny - and along with the skinny tires makes would-be-thieves look away. They don't know that a used brick is probably the best value for money in the used motorcycle market.
I've got another airport run Tuesday. The helmet-toilet story is disturbing. I will not forget my cover again.
Post by: bmwpyro on December 11, 2016, 12:16:00 PM
Having no experience. i just have no idea, reading about it and actually having the experience are just like 2 different things.
i realized i have never thought to observe how motorbikes are secured in the Mall. I'm normally observant but i overlooked this part. will pay closer attention now...
i was observing the motorbikes at work the other day. i didnt see any fancy security, but i might have missed it. will look daily to see if i can see more...
i have friends tho whose bicycle seat or tires has been taken... so i worry...
I have operated on the basis of "out of sight, out of mind" for a long time. its my #1 deterrent, that includes, a low to no bling factor.
having a cover introduces a potential psychological barrier I agree.
any cover suggestions? does it use tie down / lock / garter / other ?
maybe i should just leave the bike looking unfinished after all is done :yes function over form so to speak.
@Martin, if you have the disc lock on the Helmet. which i assume to be motion sensitive. when the helmet moves, it sounds right?
yey!(?) I'm a geezer now. :yes
Post by: Martin on December 11, 2016, 12:49:09 PM
It gives a warning couple of chirps, if you leave it alone it is then fine. But if you continue to tamper with it, it sounds the alarm. It also gives you enough time to deactivate with the key once it chirps. Made by Oxford.
Regards Martin.
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on December 11, 2016, 01:06:24 PM
As far as the cover, I just use those cheap lightweight nylon types that stuff into a small bag. They usually have a short bungie that fastens under the engine, but I discard it and just throw the cover over the bike. So far I have had no problems with them blowing off in the wind.
I'm not looking for protection from a building collapsing on my bike. Mainly I just want to keep dust and the UV radiation off the paint. That the cover deters threat is a bonus.
Post by: Martin on December 11, 2016, 01:33:40 PM
As Gryph has stated multi purpose.I have a mid price range cover and covers are great idea as long as you keep them away from the exhaust. And some types tend to stick to the paintwork if stored outside in hot temperatures. If you are storing outside in extreme heat I believe the ones that breath should negate the problem of sticking, but get some local advice.
Regards Martin.
Post by: The Dude on December 11, 2016, 05:27:20 PM
Gentlemen,Great question.
i just thought of something the other day... how does one secure a K bike from being stolen?
Thank You
It's peace of mind we are really after.Will she be there when I get back?All the ideas to discourage yours from going missing are good and can ultimately fail but for the fact as Scud pointed out we ride wierd looking oddities that are only valued by their old geezer riders and not lollipop,chrome or rocket ship which appeals to the alternate and popular view.Old geezers know a thing or two but let's just keep that to ourselves? :dunno2:
Post by: Chaos on December 11, 2016, 05:40:09 PM
Post by: jakgieger on December 11, 2016, 06:34:08 PM
Maybe because I parked next to a planter :hehehe
:hehehe Chaos, I have long pondered the paint scheme for you bike :dunno :bmwsmile ...is it a BMW disguised as a Ural, a BMW military inspired version, or a personal statement :bmwsmile ????
Post by: Chaos on December 11, 2016, 06:55:36 PM
Post by: jakgieger on December 11, 2016, 07:15:36 PM
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on December 12, 2016, 01:09:24 AM
Post by: jakgieger on December 12, 2016, 08:10:16 AM
Post by: bmwpyro on January 02, 2017, 02:49:04 PM
i got the bike scud was showing earlier...
unfortunately cracked the right side fairing after i unstrapped it from the truck before i could get the picker on, hit the bed side rail...
it was a slow motion fall as my wife and i tried to stop it but couldnt... minor right fairing crack/damage only...
got some time off and built a shed before the Rains and morning frosts came. just in time...
and i passed the MSF... now waiting for my paperwork to arrive. watching people riding their bikes isnt the same... :dunno2:
delayed in starting work on the bikes... still need to finish a car before anything else. dont want to have parts all over the place and misplace it.
Happy New Year to All!
(i was able to insert pics in between sentences before. right now i cant remember how. seems like something is missing)
(guess not, it seems i dont have that capability yet :eek: )
Post by: Laitch on January 02, 2017, 03:09:16 PM
(i was able to insert pics in between sentences before. right now i cant remember how. seems like something is missing)You haven't done it before, bmwpyro—not here anyway. Photos uploaded from desktops get stacked at the end of posts like they are in your latest post and all of your other posts here. If you had them on a photo server account, you would have the capability to insert them into text.
(guess not, it seems i dont have that capability yet :eek: )
The problem with using photos from photo server accounts is that they disappear from here when the account lapses, is closed or when the site itself is taken down for some reason. It's more useful for you to substitute a caption for the number strings like your photos have under them then, after that, you upload them to the site from your desktop or phone. That way, they'll be self-descriptive and stick around for the duration.
Post by: bmwpyro on January 02, 2017, 05:55:02 PM
also right, i have seen countless threads in other forums with wonderful pics earlier on, only to come back years later to blanks,
i have taken to printing PDFs of it when i find a subject interest and storing them in my HD.
i will remember to do the captions on the next photos i post. Thanks!
Post by: Scud on January 02, 2017, 07:10:38 PM
Looking forward to see what you do with the bike.