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Title: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: beemuker on July 19, 2016, 09:43:25 AM
https://pensacola.craigslist.org/mcy/5680518575.html

or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Motorhobo on July 19, 2016, 09:54:03 AM
Because no one would wave at you.
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Laitch on July 19, 2016, 10:06:39 AM
 :clap:
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Brian N NC on July 19, 2016, 12:32:44 PM
That's my line of logic too, you should see the evil looks I get when I tell people on Can Am Spyders or Polaris Slingshots that their Miata lost one of it's rear wheels.

If you're buying something like that because you can't physically hold up a motorcycle or you're handicapped I can understand it but when I see perfectly able folks on them I wonder if they realize they could buy a nice used Miata, BMW Z4, Honda S2000, etc and they wouldn't have to wear a helmet, avoid rain storms, etc and they'd be able to have heat, air conditioning, a roof, a quiet conversation, etc.

Guess it's just a preference some people have.

Oh, and if you're in a Miata all the Miata folk will wave at you. They are an odd lot.  :bmwsmile
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: DavidATL on July 19, 2016, 02:45:10 PM

Oh, and if you're in a Miata all the Miata folk will wave at you. They are an odd lot.  :bmwsmile

Yes but not 100% of them. I know :-). Motorcycle riders are universally friendlier. Even Harley riders exchange waves with me when I am riding albeit with a low hand. HA!

David

01 BRG Miata
92 K75RT
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: beemuker on July 19, 2016, 06:30:01 PM
That's my line of logic too, you should see the evil looks I get when I tell people on Can Am Spyders or Polaris Slingshots that their Miata lost one of it's rear wheels.

If you're buying something like that because you can't physically hold up a motorcycle or you're handicapped I can understand it but when I see perfectly able folks on them I wonder if they realize they could buy a nice used Miata, BMW Z4, Honda S2000, etc and they wouldn't have to wear a helmet, avoid rain storms, etc and they'd be able to have heat, air conditioning, a roof, a quiet conversation, etc.

Guess it's just a preference some people have.

Oh, and if you're in a Miata all the Miata folk will wave at you. They are an odd lot.  :bmwsmile
Ha, I had one and loved it. Kind of like riding around in a fancy go cart. man can hose things take a corner[for a car]
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Motorhobo on July 19, 2016, 06:42:06 PM
Kind of like riding around in a fancy go cart.

Shouldn't that 'kind of like' be an 'is'?
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: F14CRAZY on July 19, 2016, 10:24:27 PM
Shouldn't that 'kind of like' be an 'is'?

My best buddy has owned an early Miata. We've sat in a new Miata which feels quite a bit bigger than his old one, but feels like a ship compared to his MG Midget
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: beemuker on July 20, 2016, 09:43:52 AM
then there is this soon to come option. 3 cyl. at least
http://eliogenuine.eliomotors.com/?sctp=sm&scvn=fb&scsrc=fb&sckw=na
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Laitch on July 20, 2016, 11:28:41 AM
then there is this soon to come option. 3 cyl. at least
It has an especially suitable front end for the shark tooth motif, or an overall design for the flying zucchini look.
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Martin on July 20, 2016, 05:33:51 PM
Can I get one in a rag top. Might buy one in another 20 years.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: ljjohns on July 20, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
FWIW: my wife was initially a gracious pillion rider on my K11 and then my K12. But at some point she found it more pleasurable to ride trail in her Honda Del Sol where she had coffee, air conditioning, and a stereo without a need for ATGATT.  Now that i'm no longer confident enough in my abilities--cognitive and physical--to ride with friends on the bike, the Del Sol is a wonderful substitute, one where I can pop the roof into the trunk, lower the rear window, and tool along. It's not the same, but I feel safer and still have the pleasure of the wind and the companionship.

Larry Johnson
El Paso TX
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Chaos on July 21, 2016, 04:23:37 PM
then there is this soon to come option. 3 cyl. at least
http://eliogenuine.eliomotors.com/?sctp=sm&scvn=fb&scsrc=fb&sckw=na

How long have those been "coming soon"   :hehehe
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: beemuker on July 21, 2016, 04:40:52 PM
How long have those been "coming soon"   :hehehe
apparently 100 will be sold to a "lucky few" later this year. The rest od us will have to wait a bit. I plan on riding a "new " brick by then.
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/11/elio-motors-delays-trike-deliveries-2017/
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: TrueAce on July 21, 2016, 10:30:32 PM
Beemer............you buy one of those three-wheel atrocities, and you'll be banned, pure and simple. Now go forward in K-Faith and sin on these pages no more!

BTW..........you know how noble and brave a BMW long-distance rider looks in the pouring rain......conquering the elements! I saw a Slingshot owner, in helmet, drenched, riding his Bastard Sycle (BS) in the storm, and looking miserable and pathetic. Don't be that person!
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Laitch on July 21, 2016, 11:03:06 PM
Beemer............you buy one of those three-wheel atrocities, and you'll be banned, pure and simple.
Now, now Brother Ace. Hate the sin; lover the sinner.

Besides, Elios aren't meant for stability-seeking bikers who are targets of Scorpion or Polaris sales. They're this generation's Isetta but with a body reflecting the trim ideal of modern western humanhood and meant to replace the SUV for the cross-fit, soccer-besotted, info-teched, lean intelligentsia as long as the owner is divorced and intends to carry as cargo only one child, one man-purse, one soccer ball and a medium Starbucks double latte in a compostable cup.
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Chaos on July 22, 2016, 12:28:46 AM
Elios aren't meant for stability-seeking bikers who are targets of Scorpion or Polaris sales. They're this generation's Isetta ...... meant to replace the SUV for the cross-fit, soccer-besotted, info-teched, lean intelligentsia ....

Very true, and they will fail miserably.  Besides impossible mileage and price points, you'll get all the dangers of a motorcycle with the false security of a cage, while appealing  to the commuter who would never swing a leg over an MC.  Once the novelty dies off and everyone figures out they're better off with a used Civic it will go the way of the Messerschmidt.  If it ever actually gets into production.
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Motorhobo on July 22, 2016, 05:30:19 AM
I doubt that it will ever get into production because it will never meet the NTSB safety requirements. To my knowledge no enclosed three wheeled vehicle has ever been declared roadworthy here. The Elio is no different than that little three wheeled lorry from 'Only Fools and Horses' -- never gonna happen here.

The only reason three wheeled trikes are legal is because the classify as motorcycles and have the motorcycle lobby behind them against the highway safety regulators.
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Laitch on July 22, 2016, 08:07:13 AM
I doubt that it will ever get into production because it will never meet the NTSB safety requirements.
To read more about this conspiracy constraining the freedom to drive a rolling banana, read this (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/01/elio-motors-nhtsa-proposal-regulate-three-wheelers-cars-not-apply/).
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Motorhobo on July 22, 2016, 08:26:16 AM
Interesting article, Laitch. If the Elio has tandem seating, I really don't see any advantage to it over the SmartCar which has most of the advantages, probably infinitely better engineering and safety features, and doesn't require passengers to talk into the back of the driver's skull.

But I'm sure it'll find some exposure, at least in an episode of Portlandia due to its hipster value.
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Laitch on July 22, 2016, 08:33:58 AM
Interesting article, Laitch. If the Elio has tandem seating, I really don't see any advantage to it over the SmartCar which has most of the advantages, probably infinitely better engineering and safety features, and doesn't require passengers to talk into the back of the driver's skull.
The Elio's main advantage compared with a SmartCar is that it's more difficult to tip over as a Halloween prank.
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: beemuker on July 22, 2016, 08:55:31 AM
this one looks like it would be a breeze to tip , the Air car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RBl1LFUQ4c
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Motorhobo on July 22, 2016, 09:05:02 AM
http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/edible-innovations/breatharian.htm

Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Laitch on July 22, 2016, 10:15:20 AM
http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/edible-innovations/breatharian.htm
Good luck with that.
Washing dishes is my least favorite chore, too.
Title: Re: Why not just get a ragtop?
Post by: Martin on July 22, 2016, 04:45:49 PM
Where do they get the air from, could be painful and how many miles to a can of beans?  :hehehe
Yeeek Martin.