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Title: Too much
Post by: BlitzenGruv on April 09, 2016, 05:48:58 PM
 :mbird Gorgeous day, upper 50's. So, I tog up in my chaps, break out the goggles to keep my eyes from watering, check the tires, etc..
Grab the lift handle with right hand, hold the left grip with left hand and rock the bike off the center stand, just as BMW prescribes in the owner's manual. And, the heavy MF tips to the right!
And, there he lies until a neighbor comes home to help.
Don't care what they recommend, this bike gets parked on the side stand from now on.

Could be worse, I once had to pick up a Triumph Trident off top of me. But, at least I could lift that.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: F14CRAZY on April 09, 2016, 05:52:06 PM
I straddle the bike when I take it off the center stand personally. I found not to try using the center stand when wet as my boot once slipped off and the bike did the same things yours did...F-ed up the fairing pretty good too
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Martin on April 09, 2016, 06:00:57 PM
I sympathize Blitz I once had the rubber handle slip off while putting my bike on the stand . Ended up with the bike on it's side, and me standing there with the grip in my hand. End result broken mirror and minor scuffing to the tragkorb (buffed out ) very lucky it could have been worse. The grip is now held on with Liquid Nails. Did you do much damage.
Regards Martin
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: K1300S on April 09, 2016, 06:23:30 PM
yikes.  i never take it off the center stand unless i am on it.  both hands on bars, fingers on front brake.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: rbm on April 09, 2016, 06:39:52 PM
I do the same as Marshal.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Chaos on April 09, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
I kept reading about center stands breaking so I quit using it for parking.  It leans, it smokes, but it doesn't fall over.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: BlitzenGruv on April 09, 2016, 06:51:09 PM
Yeah, that's how I've always taken other bikes off the center stand. Just didn't know if that would work with this bike. I'd hate to have it fall over on my leg. Heaviest bike I've owned prior to this was 460lbs. I could put that on the center stand while seated.
Upper right fairing was already scarred. Good thing the mirror pops off.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Dennis de Vries on April 09, 2016, 07:43:46 PM
As many here i mount her first (.....) before taking her of the stand, hardly ever standing next to her. She's ratty yes, but i would be heartbroken if i ever dropped her. Side stand? You should see the lean, no thank you!

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Title: Re: Too much
Post by: TrueAce on April 09, 2016, 09:40:04 PM
K100 Center Stand Procedures......approach, mount, both hands on bars, strong pelvic thrust with optional grunt, off center stand and under vertical control, .....I would never trust my upper body strength to control a quarter-ton+ mass beyond 10 degrees off center. And the skinny side lever is only there to help me get off so it can go back on center stand!
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: motodude on April 10, 2016, 12:34:26 AM
For me, I'm usually on the bike. But, sometimes I'm just moving around in the garage or wherever, at those times, both hands on the bars,cover the brake and push forward. Often, I'll steer slightly to the right. That bit of counter steer causes the bike to lean toward me instead of away from me.

That has worked well over the past 24 years.

Tom
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: BlitzenGruv on April 10, 2016, 01:40:09 AM
For now it's 2x4 under the side stand, just like all my British bikes. Then, it won't start unless I'm sitting on it ready to go.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Martin on April 10, 2016, 01:58:57 AM
Blitz get a hockey puck or a slice of boat roller and attach it to your side stand to reduce the lean angle. It also reduces the tendency of the stand to sink into the mud and topple the bike. Rather than using a piece of wood get a 5" post cap and attach a piece of cord so you can recover it. Then ride to firmer ground where you can put it away. See the post in Workshop  Side Stand Extension March 19th 2016.
Regards Martin
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Laitch on April 10, 2016, 02:28:00 AM
I like the lean angle of my bike's sidestand, as long bushing play isn't part of it. The stability seems acceptable. It's like seeing a balanced rock in the Utah desert or a tree growing sideways from a riverbank—a miracle of geometry and gravity. It's not miraculous on soft surfaces though; then it becomes a probe to the center of the Earth. A puck beneath it is essential to remedy that.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Martin on April 10, 2016, 04:18:06 AM
Laitch because we drive on the left and some of the roads are heavily cambered. Extreme angles are part of everyday parking, and without pads and post caps it would be impossible to park in some places.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Martin on April 10, 2016, 04:35:29 AM
If anybody wants to see what it's like parking a Brick in OZ. Find a heavily cambered road and park on the other side of the road, the angles can be alarming. Then mount the bike with the side stand down and try and get it upright, in some places without the rubber foot spacer it would be nearly impossible. It's even worse if you suffer ducks disease, give it a go :hehehe
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Laitch on April 10, 2016, 10:31:02 AM
Of course you'd need those aids down there, Martin, and anywhere there's left-side driving. You've refilled my empathy tank this morning.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: TrueAce on April 10, 2016, 10:50:50 AM
OK,Martin, I'll bite....what's "duck disease"???
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Laitch on April 10, 2016, 10:53:33 AM
what's "duck disease"???
It's probably a disease thought up by some quack for billing purposes.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: TrueAce on April 10, 2016, 11:32:52 AM
Ha! Good one, Laitch! How about it ,Martin?
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Chaos on April 10, 2016, 02:14:41 PM
Whatever the road camber, I maneuver the bike so the left is on the uphill side.  I suspect this would still work if everything was upside down.  I need to save what's left of my centerstand for maintenance.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Martin on April 10, 2016, 04:07:02 PM
Ace I'm surprised, it must be an OZ thing. Short legs, also known as Sparks created when your bum drags on the ground. :hehehe
Regards Martin
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: TrueAce on April 10, 2016, 05:27:10 PM
Martin, the sparks I make are from my titanium knee sliders.....................
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Martin on April 10, 2016, 05:43:47 PM
Ace I would be impressed if it was from titanium elbow sliders. However please post pictures.
Regards a slightly impressed Martin.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: TrueAce on April 10, 2016, 05:49:07 PM
Pictures will be forthcoming.......I love to run the Blue Ridge Parkway at competitive speed at night........ just need to find someone who can be as fast as me to keep up as a  chase bike and take the photos.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: TrueAce on April 10, 2016, 05:49:54 PM
Pictures will be forthcoming.......I love to run the Blue Ridge Parkway at competitive speed at night........ just need to find someone who can be as fast as me to keep up as a  chase bike and take the photos.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Martin on April 10, 2016, 06:04:22 PM
 :2thumbup: Ace can you also do it on the Ural.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: TrueAce on April 10, 2016, 06:12:35 PM
Good thinking................the only way the Ural can keep up with K-Badness is if I graft a S1000RR motor into the hack. My son who normally serves as my monkey on the hack would be a great chase pilot...........check back in a month and I'll get those knee-sliding-sparks-flying pics! Bottom line........K100RS bikes will go faster and corner tighter than 99.999% of their riders, JO included!
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Chaos on April 10, 2016, 08:55:51 PM

the only way the Ural can keep up with K-Badness is if ....

Ha!  Wait till there's 5" of snow and see it those K badasses can keep up with a Ural.  When my bud with the ZX750r wanted to race my K75s, I said sure, New York and back.  He backed out.  Every bike has it's element.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: TrueAce on April 10, 2016, 09:02:22 PM
Well, now, Chaos, Martin never said anything about snow, cause he probably doesn't know what it is. How about we just race our Urals?
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Laitch on April 10, 2016, 09:09:20 PM
Ace I'm surprised, it must be an OZ thing. Short legs, also known as Sparks created when your bum drags on the ground.
Sounds like a condition that would benefit from a start-up product in Oz that I just read about. Maybe you're familiar with it, Martin. Barrister's Bum Wrap made by Arsenic, Ltd.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Chaos on April 10, 2016, 09:10:54 PM
I'd need a handicap, you have one of them newfangled fuelies
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: TrueAce on April 10, 2016, 09:12:59 PM
Damn Laitch, how do you stay on top of everything..........from orchids flowers in the garage to burned OZ bums in one day!
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Laitch on April 10, 2016, 09:14:05 PM
I've got a real time news feed from the mothership, Ace.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: TrueAce on April 10, 2016, 09:17:13 PM
Totally plugged in............I should have known it.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Chaos on April 10, 2016, 09:21:11 PM
Even his avatar is literate
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Martin on April 10, 2016, 09:53:20 PM
Ace I have actually ridden in snow and got banned from Falls Creek for riding my bike across the ski slopes. Ski slope what ski slope?? :dunno
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Martin on April 10, 2016, 10:11:51 PM
Laitch I've got Teflon inserts in my undies so nothing sticks on either side.  :2thumbup:
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: TrueAce on April 11, 2016, 09:04:51 AM
Martin, you aren't allowed to talk about butt plugs on the forum, children may be online.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Scud on April 11, 2016, 09:53:33 AM
On centerstands...

These seem pretty solid and sturdy to me. I haven't seen anything about them breaking. I will say that since I totally disassembled, cleaned, and lubed mine that it goes up and comes down much more easily. In fact, the first time I put it up after reassembly I applied the pressure I was accustomed to and I thought I was going to throw the bike over backwards.

It seems to me that a well-serviced stand would be a good place to start - then think about technique.

As for technique - I've been putting mine on (and off) the centerstand on a bike lift - where I do not have room to be on the bike. to get it down, I stand on the LH side, grip the LH bar and the lift handle, nudge it forward and pull it a little bit towards me.

Thanks for the alert on the potential for the grip to slide off the handle.

On sidestands...

The lean angle sometimes makes me nervous, but I do use it for short term rests. I rather like it when I have to park on uneven surfaces and can orient the bike to lean a bit uphill - then it stands up like a bike on a sidestand is "supposed" to.
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Bill on April 11, 2016, 10:43:29 AM
I only use my sidestand when dismounting, but will then centre stand it as the crazy lean angle of the side stand scares me. 

I tilt the bike a little right when bringing the centre stand down, rock it to the left while pulling it up onto the stand.  Works for me anyway. :bmwsmile
Title: Re: Too much
Post by: Mongrel on April 15, 2016, 04:05:38 AM
I've had a centrestand crumple on me before, but I still put her on the centrestand most of the time, and do it when I'm off the bike too - I'm too short to rock her off the stand because I can only plant a foot and a half at a time while seated. Guess I'm just used to it. I do tend to lean the bike to my body slightly, to make sure she can't tip over on the right.