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TECHNICAL MOTOBRICK WRENCHING In Remembrance of Inge K. => The Motobrick Workshop => Topic started by: beemrdon on December 22, 2015, 05:19:47 PM
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I can't be the only one who has this. Sore, tender arms, spreading about 6 inches on either side of the elbow.
The pain and tenderness can last for days. It's both arms but more on the throttle side :musicboohoo:.
Any way to relieve this condition?
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That's how I ended up with "S" handlebars. The wrist angle on RT and C bars is an unnatural fit for me.
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greetings...
other than ape hangers there aints much you can do with lt bars on a lt... pretty sure s bars rs bars c bars and the like will experience restricted movement with the lt faring on there...
then it becomes a thing of seat ergos and master yoda (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,3010.msg17823.html#msg17823)...
i caint ride a lt around the block because of the bars... butts i can ride a rs or a s all day long day after day with no real pain...
j o
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You might try pivoting your handlebar downward some, Don. A small adjustment could have a significant affect on your comfort.
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Well, the LT fairing will not accept any other bars that I know of. Because the bars need to be shaped like wheelbarrow handles in order to fit into the fairing. I'd like to buy a k1100 rs in the future but that isn't in my immediate future. Since buying the K, I've done a lot to it. One thing that I did about a year ago was to install a Corbin seat. It moved me higher and farther back from the position of the OEM "comfort" seat (whoever named that seat was a real joker). The bend on the bars has always bothered me. An unnatural wrist twist, as a lot of BMW bar bends were - ymmv.
I am going to try to tilt the bar downward a bit to see if that helps.
Otherwise, I love the bike for cold weather riding. The fairing is awesome. With the electric grips going and my electric vest, I can ride in any weather I want, traction not being an issue.
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This is a real longshot but go to your local Pharmacy and get two of those neoprene forearm straps. Try them they might fix the problem, or they may not. But they are pretty cheap, and worth a try.
Regards Martin
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Just thought of another couple of things go to ebay and type in Zen spray, it's the best liniment spray I've ever used. Had it recommended by my masseuse when I had a frozen shoulder. I've got just about everybody I know using it. If all else fails you may want to try a masseuse or even a Physiotherapist. Hope you sort it out.
Regards Martin.
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Had a hunt round on ebay vitaminkingstore (19780) will ship Zen to the US and Canada. I will say this again it is really good stuff .
Regards Martin.
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When I reduced the lateral angle of my wrist, aligned my hand and forearm in the same plane as much as possible then adjusted my levers to conform to that plane, more ease of operation followed.
If you haven't visited Flander's site, you may find it helpful although just rotating your bars is likely to do the trick.
http://www.sideroadcycles.com/ImportedMotorcycles/ImportHandlebars/ImportHandlebarsBMW.html
Martin's advice concerning massage therapy and topical treatment is spot on, but I would say massage therapy is a first resort. You don't want to keep aggravating minor injury in those areas.
Once you've modified the ergonomics, you'll stay in good shape.
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I use " C " bars with risers. Big improvement.
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Which model do you ride, mw?
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I have that setup on a K1100LT, K100LT, and a K75T. It fits my stature and riding style well. It also fits my oversize tank on my K1100LT with no clearance issues.
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Thanks to all who have replied so far. Lots of good ideas to try. I am going to adjust to angle/height of the bars first. Then move on to other actions from there.
***W074, Do you have any pics of C bars on your LT? Love to see it.
Did you use just one pair of risers?
Do your heated grips still work with the C bars?
Do the bars hit the edge of the fairing on full turn?
This would also make a great tech article for everyone if you were willing.
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A picture is worth a thousand words. Two different types. Pic 1 & 2, K100. Pic 3 & 4, K1100.
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"i caint ride a lt around the block because of the bars... butts i can ride a rs or a s all day long day after day with no real pain...
j o "
That is my take although the RS is harder on my hips(old injury).Thought an LT would be the easier option now I am old but guess I am just the wrong build.
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mw074, looks good...how do you start the k LT? Looks like the key is hidden from the pic you provided. And...what dash pad did you use? K100?
Aren't k75 C bars the same as k100 standard bars?
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rodger that... (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,570.0.html)
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I see that MAX has them now. Used ones are hard to find. They're listed under K75C not K100, at least on the microfiche list I was viewing.
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I meant to say the K75 has the C bars with risers installed. Yup, K100 dash pad. It leaves room for a couple of handlebar Ram mounts. The key switch is in front of the dash pad, it just can't be seen in the angle that the pic was taken.
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Workin' on it. A new Russell seat may be in my future.
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Talk to you later...
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I pivoted the bars down about an inch and a half. It relieved the stress on my forearms not hanging so high. A seat that adds about another inch of foam also helped so I sit more above the bars.
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
Anyone have pics of their Russell saddles that you might want to share?.
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Well, I have a couple. The 1st two pics are the seat that came on the bike, the last one is the 2nd seat I got from Drake a few years back. You can see in the pics that the 2nd one sets the passenger up and forward a bit more, which my wife doesn't care for that much, though she still likes it much better than my Corbin (on the red bike in the background)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/electro_handyman/DSCF0026.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/electro_handyman/Bike%20Tech/DSCF3806.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/electro_handyman/Bike%20Tech/DSCF3794.jpg)
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Here's mine that I picked up from Mike (mw074) this fall. He said he has another if you're looking to get one. Great guy to buy stuff from and just talk about K's
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12190105_10154335562882908_5631877577574340428_n.jpg?oh=00d82fb6a3d165812686afe6a7a41333&oe=5701CB8B)
It's interesting how Russell seats are all custom and made to order but I haven't heard of anyone that wasn't happy with a used one. Mike mentioned it happening once but from all the other feedback I've read people still love used ones (as I do).
They look a little goofy but they're sure comfy
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(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/owrstrich/Ride%20Tales%20CA%20Tulare/Mineral%20King/MineralKing08066.jpg)
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/owrstrich/Ride%20Tales%20CA%20Tulare/Mineral%20King/MineralKing08045.jpg)
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/owrstrich/Ride%20Tales%20CA%20Tulare/Mineral%20King/MineralKing08029.jpg)
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/owrstrich/Ride%20Tales%20CA%20Tulare/Mineral%20King/MineralKing08013.jpg)
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/owrstrich/Ride%20Tales%20CA%20Tulare/Mineral%20King/MineralKing08001.jpg)
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Is mine the only one without the quilted look?
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Thanks guys!
Anyone else?
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greetings...
i have had 4 or 5... all different... will have to go way back to find photos... will post them up when i getts a chance...
scott_ and f14crazy gotts lucky and gotts good ones for them used... a custom build by ruzzle for you is really the best way to go...
j o
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JO -- I saw one of them awhile back on the brick of the corn bike, if I'm not mistaken. I thought it looked good...gray, i think.
Love to see em when you get a chance,
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I'll probably have my motobrick a long ass time but I can't pay up the $600+ for my own...F14 is a full time college student
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you did good there f14... yours looks 100%... and the quilted seats are generally a thing of the past... basket weave and smooth seems to be the deal these days...
j o
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here is a smooth ruzzle... the mickster would slide into me all the time... had a seat guy pull the cover and put a piece of foam on the front of passenger part to keep her back there... he restretched and mounted the cover and all was good...
j o
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Thanks Johnny. Very nice shots.
Which seat do you use now?
Looks like 2 different ones.
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Here are 2 pics of my Corbin seat that I bought used from IBMWR classified. It is a lot better than OEM but could be better yet.
It is very hard, like all Corbins and you have to jam your azz into the "cup" which seems to be a bit small for me and I wear a size 33 waist jeans.
Looks pretty good though...
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Here's the Corbin that I have on my '97LT.
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/electro_handyman/DSCF0027.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/electro_handyman/Bike%20Tech/DSCF3796.jpg)
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Garmins look sumptuously comfortable but I like to push on pegs and slide around a little. I am guessing that butt-bespoke seats inhibit that. Numbing. I just had my OEM brick seat restored. - J
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My Corbin Dual Canyon was alright for the first season but for the 2nd season it was like straddling a large pipe...seemed like all my weight was on my inner thighs. I'd be sore for over a week completely off the bike. I'm trying to sell the damn thing cheap
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Hey Scott,
Your Corbin looks bigger that mine around where the butt resides. I've seen all different configurations of Corbins. I've got one for my R90 that has no butt cup at all. I rode that one for well over 100,000 mi. until the cover rotted away.
Don't know if I will use this one for a lot longer though. I can put the money I get for it towards the Russell....(Don, great idea).
I rode around today with the new handlebar adjustment (lower) and it was better than before... :clap:
Will I still be able to use my heated grips on another handlebar (K75c or K100 Standard) that wasn't made for HG's ? I think I have to drill somewhere...??? This is all new to me, so I apologize if this question sounds really, really stupid.
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Gryph has some bars for sale that are drilled for HG.
http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,7750.0/topicseen.html
Don't know if they would work for what you are wanting.
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Sent him an email...Thanx
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I have a Sargent seat on my new S model. Seat pan says made by Corbin(???). Great seat for about 2 hours of the first day of a trip. Absolutely no pocket for those bones on either side of my asshole.
Picked up an AirHawk seat pad, and so far it seems to have made the seat pretty comfy. Haven't has the opportunity to spend more than two hours on it yet. Only when I get some serious time this spring will I be able to say if it corrects the problem.
Don, I got your message. I have a set of what looks like heated C bars on my K100RS. Hope to have them off some time this month. I'm pretty busy right now with other stuff so no time to do the swap.
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Take your time. I won't be doing any mods until the season starts. Does the bar accommodate heated grips?
I don't know why they don't make plain old bench seats anymore. They work for me. you can actually move around to where you want to be. I have the OEM bench seat on my R90 and I can ride all day long, day after day.
Sargent seats look a lot like Corbins. I think that Corbin was so busy that they subbed out their over flow to them.