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TECHNICAL MOTOBRICK WRENCHING In Remembrance of Inge K. => The Motobrick Workshop => Topic started by: The Mighty Gryphon on November 12, 2015, 10:55:40 AM
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Recently added a '94 K75S to the fleet. I want to touch up some stone chips and scrapes on the belly pan but can't find the proper color. Bike is supposed to be Dakar Yellow, but there is no paint code sticker under the seat. Bike does not appear to be a repaint unless it was completely stripped of original paint. Previous owner tells me that the tank was repainted, and the color is a good match.
I have checked the net, and there is no mention of Dakar Yellow even being a paint choice for that year or model. Is there any way I can find out the original paint code as there appears to be 2 versions of Dakar Yellow.
VIN last seven 0154467. Is there a color clue there.
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Well, it might be a small consolation, but those digits when run through the BMW VIN decoder come back with a paint color called "Sonderlackierung" translated as "special paint." :hehehe Maybe it really is one of the two Dakar yellows. Only a matching color swatch will confirm that, I'd think.
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There's an indication at Ted's Garage that the 1994S had a Dakar Yellow among its colors, too.
http://www.verrill.com/moto/k75/k75.shtml
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your vin indicates paint code sonderlackierung - 999 which means special paint...
no motobrick other than the k1 was oem yellow unless it was a special order special edition......
here are the yellow paint codes... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/paintcodes/yellows.htm)
k75 paint... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/schemepages/schemek75s.htm)
schemes... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/annualcolourschemes.htm)
loots more info here... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/information.htm)
you gotts to call ken holt for the paint... he will know exactly what you have... (http://www.holtbmw.com/)
j o
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So the previous owner wasn't kidding when he said it was rare. I am thinking it's color Dakar #1 which is shown to have been used in the earl 90's on the K1.
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im thinking dakar 267... butts ken holt will know for sure and can set you up with the right paint...
photos here... (https://www.google.com/search?q=dakar+yellow+k75s&prmd=isvn&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&fir=SGRRBW-5jUf6nM%253A%252Czk0-S90k1JT4tM%252C_%253BeFS_WNH-20rMuM%253A%252C2TR2KRr9aAbc5M%252C_%253BSFoh17BiYH24kM%253A%252Csls40aZv1sX7IM%252C_%253BoklrvdNUonm52M%253A%252C1PgrCQkGM7vETM%252C_%253BxzXXbNHuNUD19M%253A%252C1PgrCQkGM7vETM%252C_%253BV8-rGUSielvDLM%253A%252C3U1U7DhLAwOz6M%252C_%253BmNwUAE3UiBBIGM%253A%252C3U1U7DhLAwOz6M%252C_%253B4_y3wQLbwV-WuM%253A%252C9LlcVa3RtZaxqM%252C_%253B-HjK5mf0jIDY6M%253A%252CyMUcWSUTKFTY2M%252C_%253BsMtujPH2FoM4MM%253A%252CldtpKNXBSmhiWM%252C_&sa=X&ved=0CCUQ7AlqFQoTCOai2I_ki8kCFVhaiAodqD0N_Q&biw=360&bih=615&dpr=2&usg=__xnSW4yTpb2TrjgfjsWjn8J_CTis%3D&gws_rd=ssl)
j o
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Think I'll contact the guys I've been getting paint from to see what BMW 267 turns up. Thanks for the links Johnny. Will give me something to look at tonight.
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Some BWM paint codes are listed here: http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/paintcodes/yellows.htm
There are 2 Dakar yellows according to this site. Paint code 337 is the only Dakar Yellow for a K. Nice, too.
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Oops -- johnny is right: code 267 (Dakar 1) was also used on a K (K1).
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jsb had a nice Dakar yellow - I recall the paint code was indeed 999 (special for one year - '94 maybe?) as was thinking of re-painting my '94 in the same (awesome) colour ...
Gio
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The brick in question IS jsb's. I bought it last month. Sweet ride, but it needs a little touch up.
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There is a Dakar yellow 1994 K75s for sale on the Houston Craig's list. Stated to be 1 off 100. Photo shows a stinger bee on the fairing.
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So........yellow is a non-standard color? Found this clean one-owner, only ridden on Sundays slowly by a doctor, less than 12000 miles 1994 K75S.......(if I can attach the picture to this post).....is this a Special K?
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True Ace, according to the Ted's link that Johnny posted, 94's in Dakar are a special edition. Wonder how we can find how many of them there were. That yellow sure looks good with the black trim.
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i read 100 1994 k75s se dakar yellow were made for the usa... abs heated grips euro switch painted bags 3 spoke black fd black everything...
j o
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Thanks for the responses, M.G. & Johnny, maybe my K75S is a keeper! Like Forever!!
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So, doing my doo diligence do I have one of these?
Any updated info as there is no color code under the seat unlike my '93 with 690.
Bob's told the PO that it was one of 100 in that color, I see that there was a special Dakar Yellow but am skeptical of low numbers.
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Any updated info as there is no color code under the seat unlike my '93 with 690.
What does a ViN checker tell you?
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What does a ViN checker tell you?
The only VIN checker I know of, or have access to is realoem.com and I don't see any indication of paint code.
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Thanks for the responses, M.G. & Johnny, maybe my K75S is a keeper! Like Forever!!
never say forever, it's mine, all mine. :neener: there is an online site that duplicates samples, and is supposed to be accurate, but expensive. I have a mismatched side cover I'd like to paint. Let me know what you find, I only need a little.
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greetings...
its 267 dakar yellow same as the yellow k1...
your vin indicates paint code sonderlackierung - 999 which means special paint...
no motobrick other than the k1 was oem yellow unless it was a special order special edition......
here are the yellow paint codes... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/paintcodes/yellows.htm)
k75 paint... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/schemepages/schemek75s.htm)
schemes... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/annualcolourschemes.htm)
loots more info here... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/information.htm)
you gotts to call ken holt for the paint... he will know exactly what you have... (http://www.holtbmw.com/)
j o
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greetings...
its 267 dakar yellow same as the yellow k1...
your vin indicates paint code sonderlackierung - 999 which means special paint...
no motobrick other than the k1 was oem yellow unless it was a special order special edition......
here are the yellow paint codes... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/paintcodes/yellows.htm)
k75 paint... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/schemepages/schemek75s.htm)
schemes... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/annualcolourschemes.htm)
loots more info here... (http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/information.htm)
you gotts to call ken holt for the paint... he will know exactly what you have... (http://www.holtbmw.com/)
j o
Thanks Johnny,
Found this post during my search but did not have any way to research the VIN and how the "only 100 imported" was determined.
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greetings...
you gotts 1 of 1 hundert...
if you wanna really make it special... strip it... chop it... weld it... bolt stuff on... hack stuff off... gsxr the front end and asswell the speedo... you can toss the fairings... the only thing of value are the mirrors...
also... it used to have a low seat... is the jetronic in the bung or under the seat...
j o
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greetings...
you gotts 1 of 1 hundert...
if you wanna really make it special... strip it... chop it... weld it... bolt stuff on... hack stuff off... gsxr the front end and asswell the speedo...
j o
Ain't gonna happen Johnny. This is staying as close to original as practical.
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As I type this I am looking at a pint of Cromax Chromabase BC. Cost me $40.
The label says:
W9901K
Car: BMW
Code: 267
Color: Dakar Yellow
Year: 1999
I have used this paint to make repairs to the Cheetos K75S, one of which was on just the top of the fuel tank, another on a part of the left side fairing, blending both repairs into the original paint with a cheap airbrush. The match was BEERFECT, not good, but BEERFECT; not real close, but BEERFECT.
Did I mention that the match was BEERFECT?
It was BEERFECT.
Friggin' BEERFECT. :beer:
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:yes
I have used this paint to make repairs to the Cheetos K75S, one of which was on just the top of the fuel tank, another on a part of the left side fairing, blending into the original paint. The match was BERFECT, not good, but BERFECT; not real close, but BERFECT. Did I mention that the match was BERFECT? It was BERFECT.
Thanks for the info, I guess there are at least two of the hundred active here.
I do have some chips probably from bumps and rubs while in storage hoping to at least cover them. The area in the front of the belly pan has zero chips which is reflective of its low mileage and has me looking at a fender extender.
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if you getts the pyramid... dont screw it... dont use their sticky tape... epoxy it... take your fender off and epoxy it properly... which means removing their sticky tape...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GHUBWO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B005GHUBWO&linkCode=as2&tag=mc083b-20&linkId=RUVLPDXOHIV7UA7Y
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This thread is Fect up.
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Thanks for the info, I guess there are at least two of the hundred active here.
Pop quiz!
Gryph + stokester + beemuker = ___
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Pop quiz!
Gryph + stokester + beemuker = ___
OK, I'm working on it :dunno
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if you getts the pyramid... dont screw it... dont use their sticky tape... epoxy it... take your fender off and epoxy it properly... which means removing their sticky tape...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GHUBWO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B005GHUBWO&linkCode=as2&tag=mc083b-20&linkId=RUVLPDXOHIV7UA7Y (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GHUBWO/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B005GHUBWO&linkCode=as2&tag=mc083b-20&linkId=RUVLPDXOHIV7UA7Y)
Thanks Johnny, I found one at Beemerboneyard for $10.00 less and if memory serves me right, that is where I got the one for my other K75. It only had screws, no sticky tape and I used some type of adhesive which has held for the last 40K.
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As I type this I am looking at a pint of Cromax Chromabase BC. Cost me $40.
The label says:
W9901K
Car: BMW
Code: 267
Color: Dakar Yellow
Year: 1999
I have used this paint to make repairs to the Cheetos K75S, one of which was on just the top of the fuel tank, another on a part of the left side fairing, blending both repairs into the original paint with a cheap airbrush. The match was BEERFECT, not good, but BEERFECT; not real close, but BEERFECT.
Did I mention that the match was BEERFECT?
It was BEERFECT.
Friggin' BEERFECT. :beer:
I went to the local BMW auto dealership after finding a part number on line for some touch-up paint in Dakar Yellow 267. They informed me that it shows only two available so I ordered one. That was three weeks ago and they now inform me that BMW will not allow them to buy it for some reason :dunno
So after expressing my disappointment with no communication I said I would return for my refund, a return call said that Dakar Yellow 337 is available and they were going to order one. After telling them no-so-fast, I need to do some research, they said I would not have to pay for it if it does not match.
Eventually I will remove the belly pan to have the crack repaired and need paint to match; was your Cromax Chromabase BC mixed at a bodyshop supply store based on the 267 color code? If so, I may just hold off and wait until I find a good fiberglass shop. Yea, I want mine BEERFECT too. :2thumbup:
When I looked up the Dakar Yellow paint codes on Phil Hawksley's site it shows the two paint codes but 267 is only associated with the K1 while 337 is for the R850R, R850GS, and others (no K75S). I take it there is a difference in colors or they would not have given it another code, can anyone confirm this?
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I can't say what the difference may be, but the paint mixed on the 267 code is close enough that I can do spot repairs with it and not have any color matching problems. I recently did a repair around the filler on the tank, and there is absolutely no way to see the transition.
Be aware that I do my touch up with a cheap Badger 250 airbrush running on 15psi which allows me to easily fade in the repair with 5-6 mist coats. Does a very nice job and they can be had for under $20.
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I can't say what the difference may be, but the paint mixed on the 267 code is close enough that I can do spot repairs with it and not have any color matching problems. I recently did a repair around the filler on the tank, and there is absolutely no way to see the transition.
Be aware that I do my touch up with a cheap Badger 250 airbrush running on 15psi which allows me to easily fade in the repair with 5-6 mist coats. Does a very nice job and they can be had for under $20.
Thanks Gryph.
Did you order or request at a paint supply store the paint based on the color code?
I'm still skeptical about the codes, they are named the same but have different color codes.
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I went to my guys with the code I got off the interweb since there was no code sticker on the bike. I also took a part with the paint on it.
Where I go they don't seem to have a lot of the BMW color codes. They told me that BASF doesn't share Glasurit motorcycle formulas so the have to match existing paint for the best match. In some cases, the BMW color is used on the cars as well, but under a different code. Confusing, but with a sample to match, they do a pretty good job.
These guys are good. This Spring I had to touch up the 25 year old paint job on my boat. Since I couldn't bring a paint sample, I got a handful of color cards for Sherwin Williams interior paint and found the best match. With a shot of clear on the card they got me a perfect match that I can't see from a foot away. It was so good, I had a hard time finding the repair patches after the second coat of clear.
I know of a couple other paint dealers who are just as good. If you look around I'm sure you'll find someone who can mix paint for you.
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I went to the BMW car dealership to test the 337 color code touchup paint. After putting on a side cover spot while at the counter we all decided that while close, it was not the same.
Yesterday I rode it to Morton's BMW in Fredericksburg VA to get a new Odyssey battery for the '93 K75S (it's over 8 years old) and get a couple of keys cut. They pulled up the info on the Dakar Yellow '94 and confirmed the Exterior Trim Code of 999 - Special Paint and that there was no BMW Motorrad source but the paint guy they used would be able to match it and repair the cracked belly pan fairing.
So I will wait for the fairing repair to have the paint properly matched to the 267 color code.
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In conversation with the paint guys, they explained that when matching old paint(more than 20 years old) they almost always have to adjust for the color change that results from UV exposure. That is why they like to have a part to match.
While they may label the can with a mfr. paint code and name, it will probably be off slightly from the stuff sold premixed in paint pencils and spray cans.
Reds are notorious for being hard to match. Heck, even from one spot on the bike to another there can be color differences. I had problems when they did a batch of Mystic Red for me a couple years ago. The nice thing about dealing with them was that they mixed a new batch for free.