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TECHNICAL MOTOBRICK WRENCHING In Remembrance of Inge K. => The Motobrick Workshop => Topic started by: Nantucket_Red on August 09, 2015, 01:49:48 PM

Title: Instrument Cluster
Post by: Nantucket_Red on August 09, 2015, 01:49:48 PM
So, I believe it is time to swap to a newer, less ugly cluster. For those who have tackled this project or have experience doing it. Which speedo/tacho have you had the most straight forward install. I only ask because I'm not exactly the best with wiring diagrams.
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster
Post by: thor0864 on August 20, 2015, 12:54:40 AM
I just swapped out my cluster for a Danmoto 180 on my 86 K100, and no regrets, Although the plastic exterior of the unit could be better quality, I like the form factor and the price was right compared to other multifunction gauges. I'm not great with wiring either but I managed using the included diagram and the wiring schematic for the bike. Burned a few fuses in the process but everything is working with exception of the neutral light, which apparently needs a special fix using a relay, which I've yet to investigate.
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster
Post by: Billk on August 20, 2015, 01:18:00 AM
Any pictures?
Thanks
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster
Post by: Scott_ on August 20, 2015, 07:33:31 AM
Thor, re the neutral light, in the stock cluster there is an independent pcb with a logic controller that looks at the transmission gear multi-position switch. This switch/board combination controls the gear indicator as well as the neutral light, and the starter interlock function as well.
There are some threads here that explain the switch and function RBM has an excellent understanding of the operation of it.
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster
Post by: JcJ TN K75s on August 20, 2015, 02:30:06 PM
I went with the Danmoto Nano, and wired the neutral indicator to my fuel light, because my S doesn't have a fuel gauge. Its just the little box thingy. They other gauge is a completely useless trans temp gauge with senders on my transmission and final drive, and a toggle.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOY3MtiYY1b1P9icXr-m_PSRc6yEmJiyXNlyC0O6ezkrenMO8sGlF-FiR04lgI_gg?key=NTYzd0hsQ1ktd2lsSkxlREtPaFRSUktQM2tTNklB
(https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOY3MtiYY1b1P9icXr-m_PSRc6yEmJiyXNlyC0O6ezkrenMO8sGlF-FiR04lgI_gg?key=NTYzd0hsQ1ktd2lsSkxlREtPaFRSUktQM2tTNklB)
Title: Re: Instrument Cluster
Post by: rbm on August 20, 2015, 06:00:28 PM
The answer to your question about which after market gauge to select comes down to an esthetic choice, and less of a functional compatibility choice.  Most all gauges will work with the K-bike.  You'll want to select one (or two) that fulfill your creative needs and that goes with the design.  Secondarily you'll look at the electrical compatibility and functionality.  Those gauges which actually have good documentation should be preferred -- Dakota Digital, Smiths, Motogadgets, Koso, and so on.  Those cheap knock-offs on Ebay will function but good luck if you have a problem, especially given your self-declared lack of skill in the electrical department.

There are some functions that are integrated in the OEM cluster that you will loose when you swap it out -- neutral light, start enable, turn signal auto-shutoff, clock, and low fuel indicator lights.  These functions you will have to recreate somehow, or just live without them.