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Title: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: PiotrK100 on January 03, 2015, 07:51:08 AM
Tricky issue.
Due to exhaust total modification I'm forced to remove center stand and side stand relocate on right side :mbird
The question is if someon did it before (using old stand) or I have to do it as a first? Kill switch is not neccessary as it was not before anyway.
 
Title: Re: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: Grim on January 03, 2015, 08:29:45 AM
Nope a few have been done. Most recent is a cafe build by one of the other members and his nick is evading me at the moment. Had a active post over the spring and summer. Did not have many detailed pictures as I recall but I'm sure he would post them if asked.
Title: Re: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: richarddacat on January 03, 2015, 11:23:17 AM

Tricky issue.
Due to exhaust total modification I'm forced to remove center stand and side stand relocate on right side :mbird
The question is if someon did it before (using old stand) or I have to do it as a first? Kill switch is not neccessary as it was not before anyway.
Please post pictures. I had thought of doing this myself to help prevent the oil burning at startup.

Actually, leaning it to the right before parking works pretty good.
Title: Re: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: pdg on January 03, 2015, 03:33:50 PM
The one on the 'cafe' build on here was done very simply from what I recall. Unbolt the stand mount plate, turn it around, bolt it back on = stand on right.

Doing it that way is however foolishly dangerous............

If you do that, the side stand then folds up FORWARDS.

As standard, on the left, if the stand extends (fully or partially) when riding it will just bounce along the road, make a noise and possibly some sparks but be pushed back up into it's retracted position. If you have it folding forwards however, it will become a very effective rider ejection lever if it decides to extend (big bump, return spring failure etc.), especially in a corner.

Really, it's not that hard - just make a new one. This very thing is on my 'to-do' list along with the paralever conversion, I shall make thread when I get my arse in gear.
Title: Re: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: wmax351 on January 04, 2015, 04:55:38 PM
Doing it that way is however foolishly dangerous............

If you do that, the side stand then folds up FORWARDS.



And when has that discourage cafe racer people? When riding my friend's cafe racer, I realized my toes scraped on slight turns...
Title: Re: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: johnny on January 04, 2015, 05:04:48 PM
cafe style motos should not have a center stand... period...

j o
Title: Re: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: pdg on January 04, 2015, 05:07:00 PM
When riding my friend's cafe racer, I realized my toes scraped on slight turns...

That doesn't sound very cafe raceresque - seems more chop/cruiser to me... Although, I can get my toes down riding my k.

Over here, sidestand folding up forwards would probably fail the MOT.
Title: Re: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: wmax351 on January 06, 2015, 07:06:59 AM
When riding my friend's cafe racer, I realized my toes scraped on slight turns...

That doesn't sound very cafe raceresque - seems more chop/cruiser to me... Although, I can get my toes down riding my k.

Over here, sidestand folding up forwards would probably fail the MOT.


Rearsets on a cb450. They weren't ridiculously high, so my toes were inches above the ground, since they are pointed down.
Title: Re: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: PiotrK100 on January 10, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
Back to the subject. When I purchane my brick last summer the side stand fold up immediately after my bike stands vertically. So if someone seat on it and moved the bike, the side stand fold immedately. I know it should not be like that but have no clue what i wrong. There is nothing missing (look the pic). Just before I'll move my side stand to the right side I need to understand how it works and why mine not so good. Pls look at the pics and highlight me.
Title: Re: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: Inge K. on January 10, 2015, 04:51:29 PM
Your sidestand looks quite OK...........it is two different retracting mechanisms for the sidestand,
selfretracting and assisted by the clutch lever arm.
Title: Re: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: richarddacat on January 10, 2015, 05:41:34 PM
If it swung up without pulling in the clutch I suspect the adj which causes this was adjusted too much.
The half moon nut had too many threads through it.
Title: Re: Side stand modifiaction
Post by: rbm on January 10, 2015, 10:45:57 PM
There are two different types of cams on the sidestands (the cam is that piece to which the two springs are fastened).  Problem and solution is described here (http://www.k100-forum.com/t1281-1988-k100rt-side-stand-auto-retracts#18683),