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Title: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: shrek51 on September 02, 2014, 04:26:03 PM
Has anyone removed the injection and replaced with std carbs if so how and carbs from what and set up
cheers
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: richarddacat on September 02, 2014, 05:29:57 PM
why? :spam:
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: pdg on September 02, 2014, 06:12:29 PM
I'm not sure I see the spam connection, maybe I view spam differently..........

It's been done on (afaik) all the flavours of brick.

How = unbolt injection gubbins and bolt carbs onto a suitable inlet manifold.

From what = a carbureted petrol engine.

Set up = to do it properly you need a dyno, to bodge it just experiment with jets/needles.

You'll need to do some playing with the electrics too.

HTH
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: F14CRAZY on September 02, 2014, 10:10:10 PM
fer wat?
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: jacksdad1963 on September 02, 2014, 10:57:15 PM
Of course its possible.....but why?
Pointless exercise to me,  it can be done, but i doubt you'd see any power increase: more like the opposite!
Title: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: Elipten on September 02, 2014, 11:47:06 PM
I would rather see the replacement with a newer more capable computer, sensors and modern fuel injection.  Why step back to the mid 20th century?
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: johnny on September 03, 2014, 06:42:15 AM
i heart spam... its some fine gelatinous pig...

also heart car drive shafts car shocks and car tiors on motobricks... i can see an eight pack rig hanging off there...

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Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: Chaos on September 03, 2014, 08:51:48 PM
I remember seeing a K75 with a home made manifold and a single SU carb.  Looked pretty wonky, but it ran.  Also seen turbo conversions with a carb, that makes more sense.
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: racinrich on September 14, 2014, 08:55:18 AM
why not buy a Harley if you want to play with carbs  :hehehe
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: K75RT Keith on September 16, 2014, 03:26:11 PM
Luftmiester had a kit that put carbs on a brick.  But why would you want to?. If you want to play with carbs and spend a bunch of time adjusting them, go buy a CB900.  After about 20 miles you'll be dialing them back in. BTDT.
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: bocutter Ed on September 16, 2014, 05:45:41 PM
why not buy a Harley if you want to play with carbs  :hehehe
Strangely ... one of the 'lunch brothers' on a woodworking forum I frequent, converted his Harley, I think a Y2K er, from fuel injection back to carbs. He's happy with it so who am I to argue.
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: jacksdad1963 on September 17, 2014, 05:52:10 PM
But you are overlooking one major point:
The Harley is an old tractor engine....and the BMW is a super-finely tuned piece of Internal Combustion Engine Wizardly-ness!  :hehehe
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: wmax351 on September 22, 2014, 03:28:47 PM
Carbs would be tricky to set up on the K. The reason why the factory went with fuel injection is partially that it was easier to make work well than carbs. You would either need 3/4 very small form factor, but still large throated downdraft carbs, or you would need a complicated and heavy manifold and manifold heating system, paired with either a single carb (which saps low end throttle response in order to have good performance at higher rpm) or to have 3 sidedraft carbs in a very non-ideal configuration.


The L-jetronic is bulletproof. Just keep it on there.


I updated my fuel injection system to a megasquirt, a modern system, and went back to the Jetronic. It works plenty well, and is absolutely reliable.
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: F14CRAZY on September 22, 2014, 04:42:21 PM
If you could come up with a Megasquirt system using an oxygen sensor, a MAF or MAP sensor, then you'd be all set. But then again I don't see any issues with L-Jetronic that make it worth messing with. What I'd rather have is an extra gear
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: wmax351 on September 23, 2014, 12:07:23 AM
If you could come up with a Megasquirt system using an oxygen sensor, a MAF or MAP sensor, then you'd be all set. But then again I don't see any issues with L-Jetronic that make it worth messing with. What I'd rather have is an extra gear


I had it with a wideband O2 sensor and a MAP/TPS blended tuning system. Having just ridden it back in stock config for the first time today, the only advantage of the Megasquirt was better low end throttle response.
Title: Re: REMOVING INJECTION AND REPLACING WITH STD CARBS
Post by: Cafe racer on October 02, 2020, 11:09:38 PM
I saw it done by a bike mechanic he rejetted suzuki bandit 400cc carbs al,ost plug and play, the owner of the K said it had never run as good after the conversion...