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MOTOBRICK.COM => The MBdotCOM Community Center => Topic started by: rbm on September 03, 2013, 07:17:08 PM
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I don't know if I'm the only one who has noticed but... Duck's been absent for some time from this forum. In the time he was actively participating in discussions, he created, contributed to and maintained the Lieberry content. This included a wealth of media content. More and more I've noticed placeholder images from Photobucket apologizing for the missing media. I am making an assumption that the media was linked to Duck's personna on Photobucket and that it has not been maintained over the past while either. As time marches on, these pictures and possibly videos will be irretrievable. The Lieberry is a collective resource of immense value.
Would it be an idea for the collective to discuss whether the media content should be recreated on a photo site that can be maintained by more than one individual?
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It's not just the pictures, we're missing a level of editorial input. Who else around has the knowhow AND the ability to keep everything shipshape?
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I found that Google searches are able to find cached copies of some of the missing photos. With a little effort, it may be possible to piece back together the parts. But there should be a definite solution to the problem such as absconded passwords, failed hosting services, and so on. The trick is finding such a safe place that doesn't cost extra. I doubt we want to start making this community pay-as-you-go.
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I guess I miss Ducker the most! His wisdom is huge.
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I don't know if I'm the only one who has noticed but... Duck's been absent for some time from this forum. In the time he was actively participating in discussions, he created, contributed to and maintained the Lieberry content. This included a wealth of media content. More and more I've noticed placeholder images from Photobucket apologizing for the missing media. I am making an assumption that the media was linked to Duck's personna on Photobucket and that it has not been maintained over the past while either. As time marches on, these pictures and possibly videos will be irretrievable. The Lieberry is a collective resource of immense value.
Would it be an idea for the collective to discuss whether the media content should be recreated on a photo site that can be maintained by more than one individual?
This is only a guess, but I'm thinking that Johnny and Duck are taking turns babysitting us. Johnny was gone for about 6 months last winter and people were asking about him and Duck was being very silent about the situation. Now Duck has been gone about the same and Johnny is being very silent about the situation. This is fine, understandable, and only a guess on what's going on...
No matter what, I am very appreciative of what those two have and are doing for this fine forum.
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No matter what, I am very appreciative of what those two have and are doing for this fine forum.
+1 on the appreciation! This is a way awesome resource.
Tom
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i have been planning on switching to vbulletin software to address the photobucket situation...
I like this idea alot. I understand that migrating to a new platform for the site is a huge undertaking. Tell us if there is a way to help, if you commit to the plan.
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Duck's father passed away earlier this year and it sounds like he had some health issues leading up to it. I have been attempting to buy a few parts from him but its hit or miss getting in touch with him. I think he's having to deal with the estate and I'm sure its been an emotional year for him. Sounds like they were very close.
Give it a little time and I think Duck will get back in the grove.
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Very unlikely. ... Duck took his ball and went home.....took his pictures with him.
Johnny's been footing the bill for this site from day one. We've got enough people here to answer most tech questions and keep this site alive and vibrant. I wouldn't look for the return of the Duck anytime soon. .. let's get on with motobrickin'
we're missing a level of editorial input.
How so? Doesn't the input come from the members?
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we're missing a level of editorial input.
How so? Doesn't the input come from the members?
Yes of course -- and Red, I really appreciate everything you and Johnny have done and are doing to make Motobrick happen. Just saying, it is different with Drake not involved. He wrote and illustrated so much useful technical content (which as RMB pointed out is now falling into disrepair), and he kept an eye on posts, merging and moving threads to help guide the conversation. That was a lot of work and I understand not wanting to do it for ever. The technical info on Motobrick is the best available anywhere and it's a shame if we can't maintain it and keep it accessible for people.
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I wouldn't look for the return of the Duck anytime soon. .. let's get on with motobrickin'
That has a certain finality to it...not encouraging at all. I'm sensing that you're right though. There has only been sporadic activity from him since March.
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As a member I don't mind answering some questions as I have learned from messing it up myself. I am sure there are much better experts than I. But I will do my part.
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Kinda noticed Duck had not been participating much of late, but it IS riding season, and many of us can say the same. Miss him tho...😕
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He's active on other forums so I don't believe it can all explained away by "Gone Fishin'"
Cheers Johnny :clap: Thanks for addressing the missing photo problem with a positive solution.
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OK, guess I have to be more blunt. Highly unlikely Duck's posting here again. He's pissed and has moved on. If you really miss him you might catch him at the OGS or AVR.COM.
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... on a 10 trilobite hard drive ...
OK that made me laugh. I knew they were one of the earliest known groups of arthropods but I had no idea they did data storage too.
Back on topic - this is a great site. I'm doing a refresh on a '91 k100rs and would never have gotten as far along as I have without this resource. But I don't think its chaos. Its the internet...
So, Thanks for site! :clap:
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We thank you. ..and the duck posthumously thanks you, I'm sure. No he's not dead. .. just a figure of internet speech. O0
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Johnny, thanks for the explanation and for all you do. Let us know specifically what we can do to help, including monetary assistance.
This is a great site and we want to do what we can to keep it up and running.
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just my proposal for a usefull structure
WIKI Mainpage (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/index.php?title=Hauptseite)
00_Fu... Manuals (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/index.php?title=01_Technische_Literatur)
13_Fuel system (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/index.php?title=13_Kraftstoffaufbereitung)
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just my proposal for a usefull structure
WIKI Mainpage (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/index.php?title=Hauptseite)
00_Fu... Manuals (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/index.php?title=01_Technische_Literatur)
13_Fuel system (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/index.php?title=13_Kraftstoffaufbereitung)
Might be time for me to actually get around to learning German. I'm in the process of reclaiming citizenship there, too, so would be useful for that too.
I'll see about cleaning it up a bit. I have some of the stuff archived on my computer, and pictures of a lot of tasks. (At this point, the only thing on my bike I have not personally done/worked on is the final drive, which I had worked on by Bruno in Canada.)
I like the Wiki format, but I'm not sure how well it would work on here. It's very separate from the forum, and removes the discussion from the front of the post.
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greetings...
we are working on beating down the chaos found in the lieberry and elsewhere across motobrick.com...
we can use your help... it dosent take much time... its simple... and it will help make motobrick.com better for every motobricker on earth...
this is how... when you come across a post that is missing content...
example: MOTOBRICK WRENCHING > The Lieberry > Renewing Heat Sink Compound on Ignition Module (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=3061.0)
click the report to moderator link at the bottom right...
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/owrstrich/MB%20dot%20COM/reporttomoderator_zps0e5c01d0.jpg)
then at enter comment... enter this post is missing content... or what ever you wanna say...
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff192/owrstrich/MB%20dot%20COM/entercomment_zpsd8f70866.jpg)
click submit... then the motobricko fixo team will investigate and getts it fixtoed...
thanks for your help... it will be enormously appreciated...
j o
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Perfect. That's a good way to do it.
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just my proposal for a usefull structure
WIKI Mainpage (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/index.php?title=Hauptseite)
00_Fu... Manuals (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/index.php?title=01_Technische_Literatur)
13_Fuel system (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/index.php?title=13_Kraftstoffaufbereitung)
I like the Wiki format, but I'm not sure how well it would work on here. It's very separate from the forum, and removes the discussion from the front of the post.
morning
we had the same probs as here
- endles postings that might lead to the solution
- unclear post headings
- quoted pics from endles webserver - meanwhile dead links
- Pdf files just linked to personal dropbox that will be deleated latest when urgently needed
- ect - think you know what i mean
including the forum with the soutions is the reason for the chaos
you´ll never bash that into a usefull structure
seperating all files from the forum an storing on own server is the way
everybody that "owns" / posts usefull pics/files/theads has to be willing to give that knowladge to the forum
the only strict structure that is valid world wide to identify / find parts is the BMW no sytem - so why don´t use it for finding solutions ?
everyone is able to search in realoem - so what
we made one mistake in the begining and that was to have an open structure wil almost 50 authors
after being hacked last year- everything was gone
now we´ve got only 2 admins and every new & usefull thread/information will be issued as a new PDF/site incl all pic´s / drawings on the wiki server
as mentioned before:
adding an english part to the wiki is one way
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greetings zonenfeile...
very good advice... appreciate your site and your advice... we wont take it for granted...
j o
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I was recently on a Linux forum and spotted something that may be useful to us. They required that when your problem was solved, you added "SOLVED" or "FIXED" into your subject heading and then that thread was closed but still available for everyone to read.
How about adding a "Troubleshooting" section for us to try something like that. When you problem was fixed, you could state as such and let everyone know what worked. Then you notify the admin types so they could close it down or what ever it is called when you can't add any more post?
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oh Lynn
the "Bundesadler" as avatar :clap:
noone would use it in D / we´ve got merkeled here :hehehe
do you have German roots ?
anyway
no matter what kind of structure beeing used for technical documation - it has to be seperated from the forum
one solution often is the destillate from somtimes 3-4 theads - so someone has to collect / check / add / delete - than you´ve got a solution valid for the next patient
take for example the wrong air problem
everybody has/had or will have it
so we just took the maingroup 13- Fuel preparation (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/index.php?title=13_Kraftstoffaufbereitung)
adding a few informativ pics 2V & 4V + short discripion
than we issued 13_Wrong-air Partlist K75-K1100 (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/images/9/9b/13_Nebenluft_Teile.pdf) all part no linked to realoem - finnished
if any new solutions appear: PDF can be changed and Wikki can be edited
Ok - if someone new comes with the prob again - you´ve only got to ask him to read the fu... instructions - but that´s what he needs
no need for discussing that over and over again
just a proposal - many ways lead to Rome but some probs are always the same
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I think the only necessary change here is to encourage people to upload images and docs instead of linking to them. Admin could take it a step further and remove the ability to use linked images, but that's probably going too far.
One advantage of using linked images is that it seems they can be formatted into the post text. Is there an easy way to format attached images into post text?
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by the end of october... every off site image link posted will be captured and the image will be converted and stored in our database...
this means no more missing photo links...
there is also a covert posted tech content to pdf operation going on... the motobrick covert opps team has been diligent...
I think zonenfeiles deal is the best ever... I do not have time to do this right now... at this point we are collecting... in the future it will be organized all pro like and all...
j o
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oh Lynn
the "Bundesadler" as avatar :clap:
noone would use it in D / we´ve got merkeled here :hehehe
do you have German roots ?
anyway
no matter what kind of structure beeing used for technical documation - it has to be seperated from the forum
one solution often is the destillate from somtimes 3-4 theads - so someone has to collect / check / add / delete - than you´ve got a solution valid for the next patient
take for example the wrong air problem
everybody has/had or will have it
so we just took the maingroup 13- Fuel preparation (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/index.php?title=13_Kraftstoffaufbereitung)
adding a few informativ pics 2V & 4V + short discripion
than we issued 13_Wrong-air Partlist K75-K1100 (http://technik.flyingbrick.de/images/9/9b/13_Nebenluft_Teile.pdf) all part no linked to realoem - finnished
if any new solutions appear: PDF can be changed and Wikki can be edited
Ok - if someone new comes with the prob again - you´ve only got to ask him to read the fu... instructions - but that´s what he needs
no need for discussing that over and over again
just a proposal - many ways lead to Rome but some probs are always the same
Yes, I do have German roots. I was wondering if someone would ever comment about my avatar. I think that I have been using it for just over a couple of years now. I picked the Bundesadler because I did not have a good picture of my K75 (still don't) and I could not think of anything else. Someday I will change it. I just have to come up with something better. If you have any ideas, please let me know. I am open to suggestions.
I like your idea of linking part #s to realoem. Seems logical and easy. Tim's idea to encourage members to upload images and documents instead of links also seems to be sound advice.
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Yes, I do have German roots. I was wondering if someone would ever comment about my avatar. I think that I have been using it for just over a couple of years now. I picked the Bundesadler because I did not have a good picture of my K75 (still don't) and I could not think of anything else. Someday I will change it. I just have to come up with something better. If you have any ideas, please let me know. I am open to suggestions.
I like your idea of linking part #s to realoem. Seems logical and easy. Tim's idea to encourage members to upload images and documents instead of links also seems to be sound advice.
prima - dann schnacken wir jetzt in deutsch weiter :neener:
Johnny has got a lot of work - I know about that
it took us months to collect and to fill the wiki
now it´s easy - almost no work
I could offer support as well
what about offering a dropbox to collect - easy for everyone just to throw the personal data junk in and some guys working on the other side ?
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Yes, I do have German roots. I was wondering if someone would ever comment about my avatar. I think that I have been using it for just over a couple of years now. I picked the Bundesadler because I did not have a good picture of my K75 (still don't) and I could not think of anything else. Someday I will change it. I just have to come up with something better. If you have any ideas, please let me know. I am open to suggestions.
I like your idea of linking part #s to realoem. Seems logical and easy. Tim's idea to encourage members to upload images and documents instead of links also seems to be sound advice.
prima - dann schnacken wir jetzt in deutsch weiter :neener:
LOL, I would love too, but I am sure that you have forgotten more English than all the Geman I have ever known.
Ich hatte vergessen die kleine menge der Deutschen meine GroBeltern lehrte mich.
" I can't remember any of the German my grandparents taught me." ? Am I even close ?