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Title: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: frodef on August 25, 2013, 04:20:17 PM
I checked the transmission oil level on my K75 today, and the stick came up with some really frothy oil. I'll change the oil I suppose, but how worried should I be otherwise?

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Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: johnny on August 25, 2013, 06:33:58 PM
greetings...

i have heard abouts folks removing the oil fill cap and pizzing in the engine oil which causes frothing... butts i never heard of pizzing the the gear box... butts if they did it will most certainly froth...

j o
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: TimTyler on August 25, 2013, 08:08:10 PM
There's a breather vent on the top of the transmission.

If you've pressure washed your bike or ridden in a hurricane, it's likely some water got in there.

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Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: bmw-rider on August 26, 2013, 08:39:07 AM
What oil are you using?
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: frodef on August 27, 2013, 03:16:26 AM
What oil are you using?

A 75W-90, saying "API GL-4/5, API MT-1".
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: bmw-rider on August 27, 2013, 09:46:34 AM
That's OK then, but only API-GL5 is the correct one for you're bike.
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: frodef on September 01, 2013, 01:16:04 PM
So apparently my gearbox has been running on honey for some time...  :musicboohoo:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6817788/IMG_20130901_143356.jpg)

I bought some (extremely expensive) 75w140 and put in there now, hopefully that will work too.

Btw. I put a crush washer on that drainplug, guessing there's supposed to be one there? There was only a somewhat conical washer there, fixed to the plug.
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: TimTyler on September 01, 2013, 01:41:04 PM
You removed the "conical washer", right? That's the old crush washer.
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: frodef on September 01, 2013, 02:02:03 PM
You removed the "conical washer", right? That's the old crush washer.
I didn't remove it because it was much too narrow to pass over the threads. You can see it in the picture if you enlarge it. If that's the old crush washer, it's extremely deformed, so I thought it was supposed to be there... but it isn't?
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: frodef on September 01, 2013, 02:04:04 PM
There's a breather vent on the top of the transmission.

If you've pressure washed your bike or ridden in a hurricane, it's likely some water got in there.


Is that a rubber piece? A lot of my rubber is starting to disintegrate... Would that be under the battery, approximately?
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: TimTyler on September 01, 2013, 02:05:22 PM
If you can drain, save and re-use the trans fluid you just put in, I suggest you remove that ancient washer (and ideally the new one too) and put it all back together with a new washer.

It's possible that you won't have a leaking problem if you leave things as-is, but...

You'll find that the old washer can be pried off without too much trouble.
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: TimTyler on September 01, 2013, 02:06:20 PM
The breather vent cap is not rubber.
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: frodef on September 01, 2013, 02:26:20 PM
You'll find that the old washer can be pried off without too much trouble.
Ok, thanks for the info, I'll see if I can get it removed sometime.
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: johnny on September 01, 2013, 08:45:28 PM
i use mobil 1 75-140 in the gear box...

j o
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: TimTyler on September 01, 2013, 09:47:09 PM
i use mobil 1 75-140 in the gear box...

I did that by mistake once. Couldn't figure out why I paid $20 instead of $10 until I looked at the empty bottle the next day.
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: wmax351 on September 01, 2013, 10:55:06 PM
I run Redline Shock-proof. Works really well.
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: johnny on September 01, 2013, 10:58:29 PM
im pretty certain that somebody opened your oil fill and pizzed in your sump... ive seen it before and it looks exactly like this...

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6817788/IMG_20130901_143356.jpg)

j o
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: TimTyler on September 02, 2013, 12:35:29 AM
im pretty certain that...

Who does that? 

Seems like a lot of effort and aim when deflating tires or cutting wires would be quicker without leaving DNA behind.
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: johnny on September 02, 2013, 01:28:33 AM
yawl...

pizzing in the gear box... thats why they offer locking oil fill caps...

(http://www.ascycles.com/images/products/RCU/RCU03000.jpg)

crazy aint it...

j o
Title: Re: Foaming transmission oil
Post by: frodef on September 02, 2013, 03:00:54 AM
Well it didn't smell like piss... although I'm pretty desensitized to the smell as we're in the middle of potty-training the youngest now.