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Title: automatenfett for spline lube??
Post by: bamaboy on June 25, 2013, 09:13:24 PM
In a past life, I was pretty heavy into the Swiss rifle scene, the only remnant of that is a tub of automatenfett. Anyone have any experience and/or opinions on the use of this Swiss grease? It's made for the maintenance of machine guns and is supposed to be some pretty good stuff. I know that it is lithium base with molydenum disulphide added in.
Here is some info I gleamed from a gun forum;
AUTOMATICS GREASE
Technical instruction card materials number: 2119.3328
ALN: 335-4809
Fat to the lubricating of automatic weapons

Characteristics and employment

The automatic grease is a special grease for the maintenance and engagements lubrication of all automatic weapons
also at low temperatures.
The additive of MoS2 guarantees good lubrication characteristics in particular for bolts under extreme
conditions of all automatic weapons. Special additives secure a high corrosion protection ability and
a high water resistance for the protection of the weapons against corrosion.

Fulfilled requirements

Special grease in accordance with requirement of the army

Physical data

Characteristic conditions: Limit value: Unit: Testing method:
NLGI class 1 - 2 -
Kind of the soap lithium -
Color visual grey - visual
Kin. Viscosity basic oil viscosity with 40C min. 13 mm /s ISO 3104Melting temp. min. 170 C ISO 2176Penetration 25C 275 to 325,0,1 mm ISO 2137High pressure properties
VKA
Load Wear index min. 300 N ASTM 2596MoS2- part 2,75 g/100 g DIN 51831/1 from Mo-content min.
Title: Re: automatenfett for spline lube??
Post by: johnny on June 25, 2013, 09:42:46 PM
if i needed some fat to the lubricating of automatic weapons i would slather that automatenfett on my splines straightaway and not give it another thought...

j o

Title: Re: automatenfett for spline lube??
Post by: Chaos on June 25, 2013, 10:01:31 PM
I think you want 30-50% moly, hard to say how that stuff would work on splines but it would be better than nuttin :popcorm
Title: Re: automatenfett for spline lube??
Post by: dhanda on June 27, 2013, 02:58:59 AM
It may be good for guns but how would it perform under the extreme pressure applied by the splines.
Title: Re: automatenfett for spline lube??
Post by: Kyle10 on June 27, 2013, 02:35:48 PM
I swear by this: http://www.guarddogmoly.com/gd570.shtml (http://www.guarddogmoly.com/gd570.shtml)

Guard Dog Moly Lubricants, Inc. GD-570 Moly Paste
Title: automatenfett for spline lube??
Post by: sh00ter on June 27, 2013, 03:46:52 PM
My concern wouldn't be it's tolerance to heat but rather its tolerance to the spinning forces and its ability to withstand being spun off.
Title: Re: automatenfett for spline lube??
Post by: Brad-Man on June 28, 2013, 03:56:52 PM
I bet you have a K-31 - right?
Title: Re: automatenfett for spline lube??
Post by: bamaboy on June 28, 2013, 07:57:38 PM
LOL, Over the years I had 10 or so Schmidt Rubin's (predecessor to the K31s) and probably 15 or so of the K31s. Fine rifles all of them, for a surplus gun, that at one time could be had for $75, they say to manufacture one to those standards today would make it a $1500 rifle. I gave one to each of my brothers. I just sold my last one about 6 weeks ago.
Title: Re: automatenfett for spline lube??
Post by: Brad-Man on June 28, 2013, 09:05:07 PM
I have a C&R license and bought one ~6 years ago for $89.

I just love looking at it and working the action...