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TECHNICAL MOTOBRICK WRENCHING In Remembrance of Inge K. => The Motobrick Workshop => Topic started by: frankenduck on January 05, 2013, 08:03:30 PM
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See attached PDF.
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I have the 465. and appreciate this post, since I bought it in good used condition but did not get the instructions. One technical question: Ride Sag is Extended Height minus Ride height. Ride Sag is stated to be optimally 1/3rd of the total travel. What is the best method for determining "Total Travel" (It may be hard to find the totally compressed limit)? I posted here thinking that I may get a reply before March snow melt occurs.
UJ
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greetings tio jaimito...
this post... the last post by crash... (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=4683.msg29290#msg29290) and this post by drxbmw... tells you how to do it... (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=1460.0)
the 1/3 of total travel is a startting point... butts in the end its almost always 1 1/4 to 1 3/4 inches...
i can feel the difference between 1.25 and 1.5 and 1.75 inches... there is a sweet spot...
just like in a race car...
1) heavy steering feels like you are turning the wheel but the front end wants to push to the wall... generally when the sag is too high your bars will feel heavy... when you push the bars they feel heavy like there is lotts o resistance and you get the sensation that the front end is going off the road...
2) loose steering feels like the smallest input on the wheel will snap the rear end loose and cause a spin out... generally when the sag is too low you bars will feel loosy goosy... when you push the bars there is no resistance and you will feel like the moto wants to turn fast and you get the sensation that the moto is turning so fast the back end wants to come around...
3) neutral steering feels like there is minimum resistance butts not loosy goosy... the sensation is the moto will go where you are looking completely effortlessly... thats the sweet spot... when you get it there you will know it... cause the attainment of enlightenment will blow your mind...
butts remember... there are more pieces to the puzzle... sag dampening rebound springs... front forks... rear shock... all intermingled...
j o
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Thankyou, our Guru JO, for your thawtful insights. With some new stuff, some veganaise , thought and deliberate practice, the 2014 MidW. debauchery may be better than ever. I hope all is well.
Tio
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I am very curious to know how you feel about your 465 after several months of riding on it.
I myself have said shock on my k75s, and it leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion. In the spirit of full disclosure, I am 5'10 175lbs. It seems that this shock would be better suited on a bigger machine, and a rider weight in the 225-300lb range.
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I just installed the 14" Progressive 465 shock, and it does feel better than the original. You have to adjust the spring after trial and error.
I'm 6'-0", 175 lbs too, and it took me about a week to consciously dial it in. But, I also have an extremely stiff front end (which is due to eventually change). Play around with your settings until it feels right.