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TECHNICAL MOTOBRICK WRENCHING In Remembrance of Inge K. => The Motobrick Workshop => Topic started by: frankenduck on August 07, 2012, 01:49:38 PM

Title: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: frankenduck on August 07, 2012, 01:49:38 PM
(http://www.harley-performance.com/images/xenon_h4.jpg)

(http://www.extremeautoaccessories.co.uk/pics/1193082765.jpg)

All classic K bikes utilize a 60/55 watt dual beam (high/low) H4 halogen headlight bulb.  Though halogen bulbs were a giant leap forward when they started appearing in cars in the 70s, they are now ancient technology, like connecting to a network via a dial-up modem. If you're still running the factory bulb then it's a good idea to replace it with something newer and better. Throw the old one away or stash it in your tail cowl as a back-up spare.

In order to get more voltage to the headlight (which equals more light) and prolong the life of your headlight high/low beam switch on the clutch perch it is strongly recommended that you add headlight relays to your K bike.  It's fairly easy to do even if you're not an electronics whiz as there are plug-n-play kits available.  Click here to visit the headlight relay topic. (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,268.0.html)

Here's my experience and opinions on various headlight bulb options.

Osram 64193: This is a nice fairly bright white 60/55W H4 bulb. This is a pretty decent quality and affordable bulb.  They can be had on Fleabay for pretty good prices.

CATZ brand H4 Bulbs: These are quality bulbs made in Japan available from Fleabay vendor jcatz872 and, though a little on the spendy side, are good quality bulbs that put out a lot of light.  Personally I'd go for the 3900K white ones.

PIAA: PIAA is a well-known high-end vehicle lighting manufacturer.  They have a variety of H4 bulbs available. They do make good lighting products but they are definitely on the spendy side of the spectrum.  Best prices can probably be found on Fleabay. Link to PIAA site: http://www.shopatron.com/home/search/353.0.1.1?q=h4&t=product&cf=10545.0.0.0.0 (http://www.shopatron.com/home/search/353.0.1.1?q=h4&t=product&cf=10545.0.0.0.0)

Generic "Xenon" bulbs from Fleabay: These bulbs use xenon gas which burns brighter and whiter than halogen.  You can get them for less than $10/pair on Fleabay. (Sometimes they are listed as "HID" but they are not. You simply cannot buy a set of HID bulbs and ballasts for <$10 shipped.) The 60/55W ones are definitely better than your old stock halogen bulbs.  Once you've added relays and beefier wiring you can also buy higher wattage versions of these. For example: 100/55W, 100/90W, 130/90W, etc...  These are what I usually run and am happy with.  (DO NOT run higher wattage bulbs without adding relays and beefing up the headlight wiring.  Otherwise you will most likely melt the insulation off of your headlight wires and cause a short or maybe even a fire since the factory headlight wiring is not fused.)

NOTE: Anything with higher wattage than 60/55W is not DOT-compliant and therefore technically illegal.  However, if you keep the cutoff at the top of your low beam properly aimed not to the blind the car ahead of you in their mirrors or blind oncoming traffic you probably won't be hassled by law enforcement.  I've been running higher wattage bulbs for tens of thousands of miles for many years in many states without being hassled.

That's my .02.  If anyone else wants to share their opinions on these or different H4 headlight bulbs then feel free to add to this thread.

H4 Handling: When handling headlight bulbs do not touch the bulb glass with your fingers.  Oils from your skin (your fingerprint) are left on the glass.  Headlight bulbs get pretty hot and cook that which will greatly shorten the life of the bulb.  If you do accidentally touch a bulb with your fingers then clean it off with some rubbing alcohol and a clean rag or paper towel prior to installation.
Title: Re: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: WoahGold on August 07, 2012, 11:38:23 PM
I've been thinking about replacing my bulb, the one I have seems a bit weak (could be OE for all I know).
I've been temped to try the Generic Fleabay Xenons.
Id you had to pick between the OSRAM and the Generic which would you pick. Also how long roughly do the Generics last.
Title: Re: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: frankenduck on August 07, 2012, 11:49:11 PM
Neither one costs that much. I'd try both and see what works best for you.  Human eyes and night vision vary by individual just like the rest of our physiology so it is impossible to give a definitive answer.

My "worst" generic lasted 20k miles. The one in my LT is 35K+.  For $4/pop I can deal with that.
Title: Re: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: BillyMac on October 20, 2012, 08:58:58 PM
Did some searches and checked the card catalog, and didn't really see a walkthrough for the installation. Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill, but the Clymer's explanation wasn't too clear for me. I didn't want to just start tearing the wrong things apart, so I figured I'd ask if there was maybe a quick guide somewhere?

(edit: just found a thread with a real simple explanation...one I had actually posted in in the past  :yow http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=2433.0 (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=2433.0) OOPS!)
Title: Re: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: Lawrence on October 20, 2012, 10:26:40 PM
Some time back I'd heard that a domestic manufacturer's "Silverstone" H4s were the hot ticket.  I bought a pair.  They lasted about 2 years.  I'd always had extremely long life out of the OEM bulbs BMW supplied, so I was surprised the Silverstone bulbs blew so quickly.
Since I almost never ride at night, I can't really say with authority if the Silverstones live up to the high expectations some have for them. 
Title: Re: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: TimTyler on October 20, 2012, 11:50:18 PM
Did some searches and checked the card catalog, and didn't really see a walkthrough for the installation.

FYI - It's good practice to clean even new bulbs with an alcohol swab.

This video is a good demo, except you won't need to raise your hood :)

How to change a headlight bulb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hURsa46t4M#)
Title: Re: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: krobert on August 02, 2017, 10:57:56 AM
(http://www.harley-performance.com/images/xenon_h4.jpg)
(http://www.extremeautoaccessories.co.uk/pics/1193082765.jpg)
All classic K bikes utilize a 60/55 watt dual beam (high/low) H4 halogen headlight bulb.  Though halogen bulbs were a giant leap forward when they started appearing in cars in the 70s, they are now ancient technology, like connecting to a network via a dial-up modem. If you're still running the factory bulb then it's a good idea to replace it with something newer and better. Throw the old one away or stash it in your tail cowl as a back-up spare.

In order to get more voltage to the headlight (which equals more light) and prolong the life of your headlight high/low beam switch on the clutch perch it is strongly recommended that you add headlight relays to your K bike.  It's fairly easy to do even if you're not an electronics whiz as there are plug-n-play kits available.  Click here to visit the headlight relay topic. (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,268.0.html)

Here's my experience and opinions on various headlight bulb options.

Osram 64193: This is a nice fairly bright white 60/55W H4 bulb. This is a pretty decent quality and affordable bulb.  They can be had on Fleabay for pretty good prices.

CATZ brand H4 Bulbs: These are quality bulbs made in Japan available from Fleabay vendor jcatz872 and, though a little on the spendy side, are good quality bulbs that put out a lot of light.  Personally I'd go for the 3900K white ones.

PIAA: PIAA is a well-known high-end vehicle lighting manufacturer.  They have a variety of H4 bulbs available. They do make good lighting products but they are definitely on the spendy side of the spectrum.  Best prices can probably be found on Fleabay. Link to PIAA site: http://www.shopatron.com/home/search/353.0.1.1?q=h4&t=product&cf=10545.0.0.0.0 (http://www.shopatron.com/home/search/353.0.1.1?q=h4&t=product&cf=10545.0.0.0.0)

Generic "Xenon" bulbs from Fleabay: These bulbs use xenon gas which burns brighter and whiter than halogen.  You can get them for less than $10/pair on Fleabay. (Sometimes they are listed as "HID" but they are not. You simply cannot buy a set of HID bulbs and ballasts for <$10 shipped.) The 60/55W ones are definitely better than your old stock halogen bulbs.  Once you've added relays and beefier wiring you can also buy higher wattage versions of these. For example: 100/55W, 100/90W, 130/90W, etc...  These are what I usually run and am happy with.  (DO NOT run higher wattage bulbs without adding relays and beefing up the headlight wiring.  Otherwise you will most likely melt the insulation off of your headlight wires and cause a short or maybe even a fire since the factory headlight wiring is not fused.)

NOTE: Anything with higher wattage than 60/55W is not DOT-compliant and therefore technically illegal.  However, if you keep the cutoff at the top of your low beam properly aimed not to the blind the car ahead of you in their mirrors or blind oncoming traffic you probably won't be hassled by law enforcement.  I've been running higher wattage bulbs for tens of thousands of miles for many years in many states without being hassled.

That's my .02.  If anyone else wants to share their opinions on these or different H4 headlight bulbs then feel free to add to this thread.

H4 Handling: When handling headlight bulbs do not touch the bulb glass with your fingers.  Oils from your skin (your fingerprint) are left on the glass.  Headlight bulbs get pretty hot and cook that which will greatly shorten the life of the bulb.  If you do accidentally touch a bulb with your fingers then clean it off with some rubbing alcohol and a clean rag or paper towel prior to installation.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-K1-K75-K100-K1100-Xenon-HID-H4-Headlamp-Conversion-/172248910398

Found this kit on Fleabay.  Wondering what your thoughts are? 
Title: Re: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: BlitzenGruv on August 07, 2017, 03:52:13 AM
I've had good service from the Sylvania Silver lamps on the BritishShakingAssembly (Hela H4 conversion.)
Never needed to replace the lamp on the K.
Title: Re: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: Martin on August 07, 2017, 04:44:08 AM
Used to have a 69 Lightning used to go through globes like you wouldn't believe, lucky I had a supply of free ones.
Regards Martin.
Title: Re: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: krobert on August 16, 2017, 04:34:12 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-K1-K75-K100-K1100-Xenon-HID-H4-Headlamp-Conversion-/172248910398

Any thoughts on this upgrade?
Title: Re: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: F14CRAZY on August 19, 2017, 06:18:05 PM
At least in the automotive world, HID conversion with non-projector housings will cause a ton of glare and not work that well
Title: Re: H4(a.k.a. 9003) headlight bulb recommendations
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on August 19, 2017, 06:46:01 PM
At least in the automotive world, HID conversion with non-projector housings will cause a ton of glare and not work that well

+1 The headlights on our bikes require a very specific location and shape of the light source.  LED and HID conversions do not provide the proper source so the optical properties of the reflector and lens do not work.  This results in scatter and insufficient light where it needs to be.