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Title: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: se on March 22, 2012, 01:30:00 PM: Greetings, Im Bill

Gave a deposit on a brick yesterday. I'll finish the sale on Sunday and ride her home. Im happy to be back on a bike and this one should work well for me.

88 K75S with 70K. Its well maintained and comes with some extra parts including a Corbin Gunfighter, tank bag, repair manual, filters, etc. It started up quickly, souded good, shifted fine, and stopped well. It just passed though state inspection. There is a little bodywork on the upper fairing and the throttle bodies pop a bit. I purchased it from the second owner and he only put about 1000 miles on it in the last year. Admittedly, he wasn't very familiar with the bike. Im curious to know what you think the value of the bike is. I purchased it for(what I feel) a really good bargain. Hope I didn't stumble into a "too good to be true" situation.

Thanks!

(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb155/btee78/bmwbike.jpg)
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: frankenduck on March 22, 2012, 02:05:12 PM: The value is what you and the seller agreed upon. :2thumbup:

Nice looking bike. That's definitely the best color for a K75S. (I've owned three red ones. :k75s)

Welcome to motobrick.com...
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: se on March 22, 2012, 02:51:13 PM: Quote from: frankenduck on March 22, 2012, 02:05:12 PM
The value is what you and the seller agreed upon. :2thumbup:

Nice looking bike. That's definitely the best color for a K75S. (I've owned three red ones. :bmwsmile)

Welcome to motobrick.com...

Can't wait to cruise. Im sure I'll get more enjoyment than my money is worth. Im hoping the S part can keep my adventurous side satisfied. I jumped on this quick but I was considering other sport tourers too......like the Honda VFR and Triumph Sprint. Any comments on how the K75 compares to those in the "sport" category?
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: frankenduck on March 22, 2012, 02:58:23 PM: Quote from: se on March 22, 2012, 01:30:00 PM
the throttle bodies pop a bit.

Do you mean it backfires when engine braking? "They all do that." You'll subconsciously learn not to do it.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: Photog on March 22, 2012, 04:11:26 PM: Here's a possible benchmark, not red though, and not an S.

http://www.secondwindbmw.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=08377497X3K22K2012J3I08I14JPMQ3176R0&veh=2579472 (http://www.secondwindbmw.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=08377497X3K22K2012J3I08I14JPMQ3176R0&veh=2579472)
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: se on March 22, 2012, 05:06:35 PM: Quote from: Photog on March 22, 2012, 04:11:26 PM
Here's a possible benchmark, not red though, and not an S.

http://www.secondwindbmw.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=08377497X3K22K2012J3I08I14JPMQ3176R0&veh=2579472 (http://www.secondwindbmw.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=08377497X3K22K2012J3I08I14JPMQ3176R0&veh=2579472)

Dang, these things can really rack on the miles. I was a little hesitant about 70K(double of any other bike Ive owned) but that blue one has almost 130K.

It was backfiring on decel for sure but it also seemed to be making a popping noise low in the rpm range when accelerating. It may not have been warmed up completely. I'll get a much better feel for it on the ride home this weekend.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: frankenduck on March 22, 2012, 06:14:04 PM: There may be some higher mile bikes out there but the highest mile one I know of had about 340k on it - and was still running until some left turning hag took it out of commission. It belonged to Paul Glaves who is a Mr. Tech Guru on BMWs.

Old Smokey:

(http://web.bigbend.net/~glaves/kbike.jpg)

John Diaz did this a while back on his K75:

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm44/gator_motorrad/k75k.jpg)

DRxBMW who posts here has tons of miles on his too.

I bought a K75RT with 179k on it because I needed some fairing parts. I rode it home in one shot (1,231 miles) and it never skipped a beat. I've also purchased a couple of 100k bikes to use as parts bikes - both still running well but showing their age cosmetically.

Here's another benchmark on price (I'd sell it for more.)
http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/mcy/2898082644.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/mcy/2898082644.html)
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: motodude on March 22, 2012, 06:16:38 PM: Don't let the mileage bother you. I have a '90 K75RT w/ 117K miles (which is not particularly high for these bikes) and it only uses oil if I run it over 6k rpm consistently for hours at a time :2thumbup: (which it will do w/o complaint).

If the popping is on engine braking (as frankenduck mentioned earlier) you may need/want to adjust your TPS. If it does not switch to the "throttle off" position when the throttle is off, they will backfire/pop a bit. There are several sets of instruction on how to do that on the 'net. I believe frankenduck prolly has one set here at motobrick.

Enjoy the bike!
Tom
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: Phil Marvin on March 22, 2012, 06:26:40 PM: Reno Del Ben has over 800k on his K75. He maintains it, and it still runs well.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: DRxBMW on March 22, 2012, 07:09:26 PM: Quote from: Phil Marvin on March 22, 2012, 06:26:40 PM
Reno Del Ben has over 800k on his K75. He maintains it, and it still runs well.

Ya, 75 K Reno is rapidly closing in on the MILLION :bmwsmile :bmwsmile marker achievement/record,quite impressive. 1993 right, I KNOW you lurK here Sir.

164,000 + and counting on my 94 K 75 whip but I have "other" bikes that need to be exercised.

At the 70K mileage barrier, clutch spline lube and general electrical go over is my suggestion. Clean up the main grounds with DeOxit. Large percentage of K bike snafus are electrical in origin, read were only slightly older than our bikes in tarnish factor.

Any record of a valve clearance checK ?

If you hit the ECU plug and brain pins with a conductivity enhancer akin to Chevron FI concentrate for electron flow. (HES turbo baby)

peace out, bricKheads

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1b8bzZWRBXk/RyfDmcNjaHI/AAAAAAAABBg/68hbkIe32s8/s720/arena%2520bike.jpg)
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: Chaos on March 22, 2012, 10:17:24 PM: NICE looking bike there! Lo miles, aftermarket front rotors, gaiters, shield, rare city bags, maybe barbacs, surprised it still has the stock seat. I'd guess an easy 3K.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: frankenduck on March 22, 2012, 10:24:56 PM: It's also got the original K75 knee pads on the tank which are no longer available. (You can just use the K100 ones instead.)

City bags aren't rare. I've got three sets. :biggrin:
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: enialb2 on March 22, 2012, 11:54:35 PM: I just bought a red 91 k75 in PA a month ago. 32k, some recent upgrades and maintenance + bags. The dealership listed it on craigslist for 3000, and it stuck around a bit and they dropped the price for me. Runs great, just have to figure out a charging issue.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: se on March 23, 2012, 08:08:02 AM: Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'll report back after the ride home. I paid 1500 so it seems I bought it right.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: Crapdealerbob on March 23, 2012, 08:20:40 AM: Quote from: se on March 23, 2012, 08:08:02 AM
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'll report back after the ride home. I paid 1500 so it seems I bought it right.

$1500 You stole it !!
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: enialb2 on March 23, 2012, 09:25:14 AM: !!!
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: frankenduck on March 23, 2012, 10:19:21 AM: Nice score, Bill. That's an excellent price!

Now go ride the snot out of it. :k75s
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: se on March 23, 2012, 01:26:28 PM: I usually research much more before I buy. I just kind of pulled the trigger on this one. Sometimes CraigsList sellers want unreasonable prices and enthusiast sites have much more affordable bikes. This happens with old SOHC4 Hondas in particular(usually what I tinker with). Blue book values really don't have much to do with the actual market value either so Im happy to know that I made a good buy. I'll update this with more info and pics once I get the bike home and spend some time in the saddle.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: TaosBrick on March 23, 2012, 05:40:46 PM: DOOD!! you totally SCORED! Yer ride looks more cherry than mine does @ 30K. Kudos, and welcome!
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: argent brick on March 24, 2012, 12:01:42 AM: $1500 is a great price for any "S" brick. Many riders feel that the K75 is one of the best bikes BMW has produced. There is little
question that most agree that the K75s is the the favored version for overall performance. When I was shopping for my brick, every street worthy cycle that I found was more than what you paid.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: Chaos on March 24, 2012, 12:56:00 AM: quote- Im hoping the S part can keep my adventurous side satisfied. I jumped on this quick but I was considering other sport tourers too......like the Honda VFR and Triumph Sprint. Any comments on how the K75 compares to those in the "sport" category?

BMW's idea of "sport" leans more towards touring than the Honda or TR. The 2v K's are heavy and relatively underpowered, but with good shocks and rubber they can handle decently. Where they shine is their versatility and ease of living with day to day.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: frankenduck on March 24, 2012, 01:13:21 AM: Quote from: argent brick on March 24, 2012, 12:01:42 AM
$1500 is a great price for any "S" brick. Many riders feel that the K75 is one of the best bikes BMW has produced. There is little
question that most agree that the K75s is the the favored version for overall performance. When I was shopping for my brick, every street worthy cycle that I found was more than what you paid.

According to the BMW specs, the S has a 0-60 of 4.7 seconds while all of the other K75s have a 0-60 of 4.6 seconds. Not sure that I believe that given the billboard of a fairing that the RT has to push around.

The S has the highest top speed (130mph) - mostly likely due to the aerodynamics of the fairing.

As far as general performance goes they're really just the same bike but with different bodies so there's nothing special about the S in the performance arena. The only thing that would set the S apart is the handlebars since they make it easier to get your weight in over the tank and are designed for sportier riding.

The bottom line is that they're ALL good.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: wmax351 on March 24, 2012, 02:08:39 PM: Quote from: Phil Marvin on March 22, 2012, 06:26:40 PM
Reno Del Ben has over 800k on his K75. He maintains it, and it still runs well.

Quick calculation: at 500k miles in 5th gear, the engine has done more than 2 billion cycles. :eek2:

From the K-BMW mail list;

Quote:
Just for the record, I't now 712,000+ miles on my K75. I just completed by second trip to Death Valley, CA, this year three days ago.
Reno A. Del Ben
Tenafly, NJ
1993 K75; 2005 R1200GS

This was posted as a follow up;

Quote:
Since you asked:

1) The original cylinder head was replaced at 327,404 miles with a salvaged head. This was done because I was down to a 2.05mm shim on exhaust valve #2, snd while I would be down to minimum clearance with the smallest shim available in about 20,000 miles, that would have been in the middle of the summer, so I chose to replace the head in January, 2001.

2) The salvaged head was not really that good, since, while my original head started with exhaust valve shims of 2.45mm, the salvaged head started with exhaust valve shims of 2.25mm, or half of the shims available as the original head (the smallest shim size is 2.00mm), so the salvaged head only lasted for 132,000 miles before I was out of available shims (valve clearances decrease as the engine ages, with the exhaust valve clearnces decreasin at a rate that is about 4 times the rate that the intake valve clearances decrease.

3) At 459,449 miles in February, 2004, I had the orignal head rebuilt, with new injectors and valve seats and the salvanged head was replaced. The valve seats on the build were cut so that I started out with valve shims of 2.80mm, much more than originally. At the time the rebuilt head was installed, new cam shafts were also installed.
A new timing chain was also installed -- but I consider the timing chain to be a normal maintenance item and it gets replaced about every 150,000 miles. The original head (albeit rebuilt) is what is now on my K75, and I expect it to last at least another 200,000 miles, based upon what size shims I currently have installed.

4) At 507,746 miles, in March 2005, I considered that my K75 had probably reached half-life, and that I should do some work on it. New pistons and piston pins were installed, and all bearings in the engine were replaced. At that time the fuel pump, brake hoses, thermostat, and throttle cable were replaced. Also replace was the water pump, which I again considerer to be a normal maintenance item, and the water pump gets either replaced or rebuilt every 150,000 miles. The piston skirts showed some wear. The cylinders were like new, with the manufacturer installed cross-hatching still clearly visible, and nothing was done to the cylinders.

5) The starter motor brushes were also replaced at 507,746 miles for the first time. The original alternator brushes and regulator were also replaced -- but the brushes and regulator I consider to be normal maintenace items which get replaced about every 150,000 miles.

So at this point the original engine and the original cylinder head (both rebuilt) are in my K75, and I don't expect to be doing any major work on the engine (other than normal maintenance items) for a long time.

Reno A. Del Ben
Tenafly, NJ
1993 K75 with 712,000+ miles; 2005 R1200Gs
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: se on March 25, 2012, 04:30:23 PM: Brought it home on a truck because of weather. Unloaded and went right to sync. It runs much smoother. I'm disappointed in the condition of the upper fairing. I'm debating swapping to a circle headlight. I'm happy with everything else.

<------- is headed to the parts section.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: argent brick on March 28, 2012, 07:49:20 PM: What, you did not have the last owner ride it to your front door and drop it off?

That is what I did(to the bank actually). If you decide to make yours a bare K75, please let me know.
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: Chaos on March 28, 2012, 08:23:54 PM: I you go with the nekkid look, I'd love to have that windshield!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Guy, New Purchase, Feedback ?
Post by: atldinan3 on March 31, 2012, 12:16:43 PM: Does anyone know what kind of windscreen is on "Old Smokey"? (the bike shown early in this thread). Is that a BMW product or aftermarket?

The bike is a standard K75, correct?