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Title: Problem having a spare ignition key cut for my 1991 K 75 RT
Post by: xcaret on May 15, 2023, 02:57:10 PM
When I bought my bike it came with extra keys , but only one cut for the ignition. The second ignition key was a blank . I took it to get cut and it doesnt work. The locksmith said he was unable to order another blank , and said there would be no charge for cutting the key ( which he cut wrong ) .
Can I order a key already cut from anywhere ? 
Where can I order a blank key in Canada ?
Title: Re: Problem having a spare ignition key cut for my 1991 K 75 RT
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on May 15, 2023, 04:19:48 PM
Go to a real locksmith(not Canadian Tire or the local hardware store) with your good key.  I would ride my bike to the locksmith so I can do an instant test with the new one.

I have a K100RS key made from an Ilco blank.  The numbers stamped into the blank are VO6  V77.  I believe there are other blanks that will work as well.  A well stocked locksmith should have the blank you need. 

The factory BMW blanks are a hardened steel that are used for among other purposes bank safe deposit boxes.  According to several locksmiths that I tried to get to cut one of those blanks, they require a special carbide cutter.  I suspect the reason they use that steel is to discourage copying because, as I was told, those keys are for special security applications.  One locksmith told me he only cuts those keys when they are ordered by banks and government agencies.
Title: Re: Problem having a spare ignition key cut for my 1991 K 75 RT
Post by: frankenduck on May 15, 2023, 05:01:03 PM
JMA NE-8 or NE-7. NE-7 is a STEEL key, not nickel coated brass like many keys. You can't get that cut at a hardware store usually because you need a carbide key cutter which even some locksmiths don't have these days. NE-8 is brass.

Ilco SR61N is a good brass key for K bikes. Ilco Y16 also works but is a bit longer than the SR61N.
Title: Re: Problem having a spare ignition key cut for my 1991 K 75 RT
Post by: John Lang on May 16, 2023, 05:49:09 PM
My bike came with 4 extra keys marked Neiman on one side, GKS and Germany on the other. Very ordinary keys. They look like they would fit a padlock.
Title: Re: Problem having a spare ignition key cut for my 1991 K 75 RT
Post by: frankenduck on May 16, 2023, 06:02:14 PM
My bike came with 4 extra keys marked Neiman on one side, GKS and Germany on the other. Very ordinary keys. They look like they would fit a padlock.

Those are also steel keys. That's what BMW dealers sell for the low, low price of only $26 a piece.

https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/PartsSearch.aspx?&searchtype=undefined&parts=51251233554%0A
Title: Re: Problem having a spare ignition key cut for my 1991 K 75 RT
Post by: stokester on May 16, 2023, 10:09:47 PM
Those are also steel keys. That's what BMW dealers sell for the low, low price of only $26 a piece.

https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/PartsSearch.aspx?&searchtype=undefined&parts=51251233554%0A (https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/PartsSearch.aspx?&searchtype=undefined&parts=51251233554%0A)
The dealership I use, Morton's in Fredericksburg VA, has both flat and folding keys.
Yes, they cost much more than the hardware store copies but it includes the cutting and will work for a very long time.